<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429063707432_7705"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429063707432_7704">And neither is the staff to operate it, the support contracts, the rack space, the electricity, or the cross connects.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429063707432_7742"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429063707432_7744"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429063707432_7743">The "free peering" from the broadband past was not because peering was free.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429063707432_7745"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429063707432_7746">("free" uploads aren't either - if they were, you'd rotate your routers 180 degrees so that you get free downloads.)</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429063707432_7747"><br></div>  <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429063707432_7750"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429063707432_7749"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429063707432_7748"> <hr size="1">  <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429063707432_7751"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Mark Newton <newton@atdot.dotat.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Richard Thornton <richie.thornton@gmail.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> "<ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>" <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 14 April 2015, 17:21<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [AusNOG] Attempting to understand DC internet connectivity<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429063707432_7752"><br><div id="yiv7454607393"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429063707432_7753">On 14 Apr 2015, at 5:11 pm, Richard Thornton <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv7454607393" ymailto="mailto:richie.thornton@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:richie.thornton@gmail.com">richie.thornton@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class="yiv7454607393"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429063707432_7755"><blockquote class="yiv7454607393" type="cite" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429063707432_7754"><br clear="none" class="yiv7454607393Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="yiv7454607393" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429063707432_7757"><div class="yiv7454607393" dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429063707432_7756">Thanks for clarifying that, I didn't even consider that they had to pay for peering per mbit!<br clear="none" class="yiv7454607393">
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</div></blockquote></div>Everything costs something. Even if it’s not charged by the megabit, owning and upgrading a half-million dollar peering router still ain’t free.<div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yiv7454607393yqt9285526488" id="yiv7454607393yqtfd27686"><div class="yiv7454607393" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429063707432_7758"><br clear="none" class="yiv7454607393"></div><div class="yiv7454607393" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429063707432_7759">  - mark</div><div class="yiv7454607393" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429063707432_7760"><br clear="none" class="yiv7454607393"></div><div class="yiv7454607393" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429063707432_7761"><br clear="none" class="yiv7454607393"></div></div></div></div><br><div class="yqt9285526488" id="yqtfd40398">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">AusNOG mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429063707432_7762">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429063707432_7763">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </div> </div>  </div></body></html>