<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><br></div>I think this discussion could continue for a while with everyone's different opinions........<br><br></div><div>Lets start looking forward;<br></div>While on the subject on Ipv6 deployments, If you have not started a Ipv6 deployment for your network  - I wonder if anyone can comment about whats holding them back?<br></div>Is it upstream connectivity/legacy devices/lack of business driver/time/training/testing etc.<br><br></div>Might be interesting to see what is the feedback from the industry.<br><div><br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Mark ZZZ Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au" target="_blank">markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:Helvetica Neue-Light,Helvetica Neue Light,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif;font-size:16px"><div><span></span></div><br>  <div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue-Light,Helvetica Neue Light,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif;font-size:16px"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1">  <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Robert Hudson <<a href="mailto:hudrob@gmail.com" target="_blank">hudrob@gmail.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Mark Delany <<a href="mailto:g2x@juliet.emu.st" target="_blank">g2x@juliet.emu.st</a>> <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 1 April 2015, 10:20<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [AusNOG] IPv6<br> </font> </div> <div><br><div><div><span class=""><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none">
On 01/04/2015 9:20 AM, "Mark Delany" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:g2x@juliet.emu.st" target="_blank">g2x@juliet.emu.st</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
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> On 01Apr15, Mark Andrews allegedly wrote:<br clear="none">
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> > In message <CAOu9xNJbkKhU3DbTjmX1LG5hcpx+uS-6XxOjajd3rS=<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:wHEurFg@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">wHEurFg@mail.gmail.com</a>>, Robert Hudson writes:<br clear="none">
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> > > Right now, it seems that some ISPs/carriers are deciding to invest in<br clear="none">
> > > NAT/PAT (or CGN, if that's really a thing) rather than IPv6.  Why?<br clear="none">
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> > No, its been selected because ISPs as a whole have procastinated<br clear="none">
> > about delivering IPv6<br clear="none">
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> Not sure it's an either/or situation. Even if you deploy IPv6<br clear="none">
> everywhere you still have to offer IPv4 reachability for your<br clear="none">
> customers.<br clear="none">
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> Hopefully what Robert is observing is not an alternative to IPv6,<br clear="none">
> rather it's a means of giving customers access to those recalcitrant<br clear="none">
> IPv4-only destinations.</div>
<div dir="ltr">That was my point. Even if an ISP offers IPv6 to 100% of its customers, it still needs to offer IPv4 to practically 100% of its customers as well, because there's a lot of systems/software/tools out there that don't yet speak IPv6.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div></span><div dir="ltr">/ So nobody here who is advocating deploying IPv6 is saying (or has said) to switch off IPv4 at the same time.</div><span class=""><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div><br><br></div><div><br clear="none">
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> On the bright side, the more IPv6 you deploy the less traffic will<br clear="none">
> need to pass through your CGN. IOWs, deploying IPV6 could actually<br clear="none">
> save you some coin!<br clear="none">
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> Mark.<br clear="none">
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