<p dir="ltr">Hi Noel (and all),</p>
<p dir="ltr">I think Noel has proven that his personal usage of IPv6 is small. I don't think anyone can argue that.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I know that although I see a lot of sites there in Noel's list that are familiar, my IPv6 usage would be much higher in terms of volume - my kids have managed to burn through a 150GB quota several times, and they do it through a mix of YouTube and ABC iView (iView isn't unmetered for me on IPv6). I also have a natively IPv6 connection (through Internode), though this is about to change as I change ISPs, I will be seeking a tunnel provider if I can make it work on my router.</p>
<p dir="ltr">As a rule, I don't see any significant performance issues (or significant benefits) when using IPv6 (I can easily enable and disable it as I wish on my PCs, and I have a <10Mbps ADSL2 connection). I do know that I absolutely need IPv6 for some services that I consume at present (one of my corporate VPN solutions requires IPv6, and although it will tunnel it over IPv4 if necessary, that has a significant performance impact - it is the exception that proves the rule I mentioned).</p>
<p dir="ltr">I might try to set up some monitoring to check my usage - as per Noel's individual results, my results won't be statistically significant for the general population, but I will hopefully be able to add another data point.</p>
<p dir="ltr">The people who can give useful stats are our ISPs and CSPs (IXs too perhaps?), who have significant aggregate traffic stats they can view and interpret.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards,</p>
<p dir="ltr">Robert</p>
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<div>So 6 out of 63 SITES worked with IPv6.</div>
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<div>2 of those 6 sites combined (given you've treated Google and Youtube as separate sites) account for around 25-40% of internet traffic (depending on which numbers you believe). So given that you started out talking about traffic rather than sites your real number is closer to 30-45% of traffic.</div>
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<div>I visit youtube at least once every 2 days or so, doesnt mean to say any my subs have new posts, so I may not stay longer than a few seconds - I dont take any notice on whats recommended for me, so my numbers are far far far from your estimates, much more closer to mine, in fact well less than 8%.</div>
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<div>Your testing is confused as it's not clear if you're trying to test the number of sites (as per your conclusion) or the volume of traffic (as per your introduction). If you're</div>
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<div>Well, the number of sites reachable is just as important, in fact, no, it's more important.</div>
<div>Because then to prove your IPv6 is such a huge traffic success all you need do is live on youtube - but thats hardly a true picture of the state of IPv6 usability, is it.</div>
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<div>trying to prove that we're not ready for IPv6-only clients, then congratulations you've succeeded. If you're trying to show that IPv6 can't help to (for example) lessen the volume of traffic that would need to be handled by CGNAT infrastructure in a dual-stack environment, you've failure.</div>
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<div>I have proved that I set out to do. I hardly expect teh IPv6 fanbois to be overly happy with my results, I expected a large number of flames from them :)</div>
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