<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr"><span>When was that?</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427762036885_10786"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427762036885_10787">If Google, Facebook, Akamai and Netflix are willing to dual stack their services, it certainly should be safe enough for you to. Minor failure rates over masses of users can cost all of those organisations millions of dollars.</span></div><br> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427762036885_10713"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427762036885_10712"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427762036885_10711"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427762036885_10785"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427762036885_10710"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> David Beveridge <dave@bevhost.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 31 March 2015, 7:51<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [AusNOG] IPv6<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427762036885_10714"><br><div id="yiv9811419096"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427762036885_10717"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427762036885_10716"><div class="yiv9811419096gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427762036885_10715">I hosted several sites on dual stack servers for some time, </div><div class="yiv9811419096gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427762036885_10718">and found that in the end it was better to disable the IPv6.</div><div class="yiv9811419096gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427762036885_10790">IPv4 is clearly much more reliable than IPv6.</div><div class="yiv9811419096gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427762036885_10791">ISPs were very slow to fix IPv6 faults.</div><div class="yiv9811419096gmail_extra"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv9811419096gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427762036885_10792">I think when browsers such as Google chrome start marking http:// sites as insecure,</div><div class="yiv9811419096gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427762036885_10793">this will put a lot more pressure on hosters to move to https:// for all web sites.</div><div class="yiv9811419096gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427762036885_10794"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.chromium.org/Home/chromium-security/marking-http-as-non-secure">https://www.chromium.org/Home/chromium-security/marking-http-as-non-secure</a><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv9811419096gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427762036885_10827"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv9811419096gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427762036885_10828">If web hosters do not have enough address space it might push them back to IPv6.</div><div class="yiv9811419096gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427762036885_10829">(I think I'm ok for a while yet).</div><div class="yiv9811419096gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427762036885_10830"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv9811419096gmail_extra">My point is that while ISP sit around and say that there is no content on IPv6,</div><div class="yiv9811419096gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427762036885_10831">Content providers are sitting around saying that there is no reliable transport.</div><div class="yiv9811419096gmail_extra">Classic Chicken and Egg situation.</div><div class="yiv9811419096gmail_extra"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv9811419096gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427762036885_10832">dave</div><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yiv9811419096yqt5416312833" id="yiv9811419096yqtfd95759"><div class="yiv9811419096gmail_extra"><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="yqt5416312833" id="yqtfd73707">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">AusNOG mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1427762036885_10833">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></body></html>