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On the flip side - all it would take would be either Google or
Facebook or <other massive service> to announce they are going
IPv6 only in x months and uptake would be pretty quick, but no one
with commercial interests would ever do that, and anything with
non-commercial interests is too small to make that dent.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 31/03/15 15:59, Greg Anderson wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I disagree with your statement, and I think that is
because I don't really consider this a change in state the same
way you do.
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<div>If we were talking colour, you would be saying we start at
black, progress through grey and end up at white.</div>
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<div>I see it as to seperate environments completely (as they
are intended to be deployed dual stack).</div>
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<div>One is black, and there is a lot of it (IPv4)</div>
<div>One is white, and there is less of it (IPv6)</div>
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<div>In either of these, their state will change independently,
but only directly in relation to itself (within reason). They
may influence each other, but at this stage, and for the
foreseeable future, IPv4 is not going anywhere. Hack jobs
like CGNAT are going to keep extending its life, despite their
drawbacks.</div>
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<div>So maybe I am just clueless, but really the state change
will be with IPv6 until it is ubiquitous, and only once that
happens is there likely to be a state change in IPv4
(removal). That will start to occur the day someone does a
test by pulling down the IPv4 network and testing, whilst
finding no detrimental changes.</div>
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<div>Please don't regard this as trolling, but there is
not going to be, and cannot be, a gradual transition to
IPv6. Consider this a state problem, where the current
state is ipv4, and we want to move to ipv6. We can only
make the transition when the marginal utility of ipv6 is
greater than for ipv4, ie. dU/d$(ipv6) > dU/d$(ipv4)
for users, carriers, and content providers. This will
only happen with a forcing change. For the foreseable
future, the lack of entropy precludes any transition
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<div class="h5">On 31 March 2015 at 13:45, David
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several sites on
dual stack servers
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