<div dir="ltr">I'm not sure I'd totally agree there. Even when the customers are screaming for it, some ISP's just don't seem to be interested - At $job-1 we had a bunch of EFM services for our .au offices through TPG. .au was the ONLY country we operated in where we had no v6. I hassled our TPG Account manager for 18 months, and always got back the same 'Sorry, IPv6 is not on our roadmap at this time' response.<div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br>DG</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 26 March 2015 at 10:22, Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kristoffer.sheather@cloudcentral.com.au" target="_blank">kristoffer.sheather@cloudcentral.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,Sans-Serif;font-size:12px"><div>If the customers needed it then the ISP's would be doing it.</div>
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<div>When it is needed every ISP under the sun that wants customers will be doing it.</div>
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<div>Thats the commercial and actual reality.</div>
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<div><span style="font-family:tahoma,arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><b>From</b>: "Damien Gardner Jnr" <<a href="mailto:rendrag@rendrag.net" target="_blank">rendrag@rendrag.net</a>><br>
<b>Sent</b>: Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:15 AM<br>
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<b>Subject</b>: SPAM-MED: Re: [AusNOG] Data Retention and CGNAT - educational exercise</span>
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<div dir="ltr">It's that 'for every customer that has a IPv6 capable CPE device' that's the problem. How many Aussie ISP's are actually doing V6 for customers? I have (almost) every service on my network dual-stacked (one shared-hosting server is yet to be done), and 2% of my total bandwidth volume is v6. Would be curious to hear what others are seeing :)
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 26 March 2015 at 10:11, Mark Andrews <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marka@isc.org" target="_blank">marka@isc.org</a>></span> wrote:
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In message <<a href="mailto:41e778700a994314857ad4504f252419@cloudcentral.com.au" target="_blank">41e778700a994314857ad4504f252419@cloudcentral.com.au</a>>, "Kristoffer Sheather @ C<br>
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> IPv6 won't go anywhere until IPv4 doesn't work anymore. That day is not<br>
> today despite the numerous arguments and flames I expect to receive<br>
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> Kristoffer Sheather</span><br>
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If you turn on IPv6 +50% of your traffic will shift to IPv6 immediately<br>
for every customer that has a IPv6 capable CPE device. This is<br>
*not* IPv6 going nowhere.<br>
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The content providers are going IPv6-only internally translating<br>
IPv4 to IPv6.<br>
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If you ship CPE router make sure they are IPv6 capable.<br>
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If you do not ship CPE routers provide a list of IPv6 capable routers<br>
you are happy with. IPv6 routers can be got for < $100 AUD.<br>
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