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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Ha,<br>
If we see one cent I would be very surprised . The money they are
talking about im sure is all earmarked for regulation and
enforcement of the new regime. As well as education inside
government for access seekers as to what info they can get. <br>
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Oh not to forget the TV Ad campaign telling the public why we need
it. <br>
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Wasn't this government committed to slashing read tape. I guess
just another lie. <br>
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If we see one cent in compensation other then the normal tax
deductions I will dance naked on a table at the next IXAU drinks.
- Come to think of it that's not much of a threat - disregard my
last. <br>
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Matt<br>
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On 24/03/2015 10:16 pm, Mark Newton wrote:<br>
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<div>No. Brandis was asked about that tonight in the Senate. He
says it's cabinet-in-confidence, and a matter for the budget.</div>
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<div>On 24 Mar 2015, at 10:10 pm, Russell Langton <<a
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/Apologies if this is general knowledge, but havn't seen
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<div>Following the previous industry letter, is there any
confirmation about the breakdown in costs of who will
pay?<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 8:41 PM,
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<p dir="ltr">The bill will pass tonight. Much, much too
little, much, much too late.</p>
<p dir="ltr">With any luck someone will pass an
ammendment to cover the costs of AusNOG subscribers
ordering new business cards with "Government Storage
Administrator" as the title.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Well done guys.</p>
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<div class="h5">On 24/03/2015 7:47 PM, "Shane
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Thought this may be of interest to those who
have not seen it.<br>
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Regards<br>
Shane<br>
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Shane – <br>
<br>
It's happening. The Government's data
retention scheme looks set to pass the
Senate tonight, with Labor's support. If
this happens, it's a terrible outcome for
Australians, and the media and
whistleblowers who keep us informed. <br>
<br>
This scheme is rushed, costly, ineffective,
and against the public interest. A lazy
amendment from the ALP - purportedly to
prevent this dodgy data bill from having a
freezing effect on the media - has as many
holes in it as a slice of Swiss cheese. It
leaves journalists and whistleblowers
largely unprotected,<sup>1</sup> and will
see every one of us treated as a potential
suspect. Essentially, it punishes the wrong
people. But as the Government and Labor team
up to rush the legislation through the
Senate, we have a way of getting their
attention by illustrating just how
problematic this bill really is. <br>
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<b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/privacy/go-dark-against-data-retention/go-dark-against-data-retention?t=njyZ5SjZD&utm_content=7635&utm_campaign=You%20can%27t%20handle%20the%20data&utm_source=blast&utm_medium=email"
target="_blank">Can you join us in
'going dark' against data retention
tomorrow to protest the Government's
dangerous and ineffective scheme?</a></b>
<br>
<br>
The message we're sending is clear. In its
haste to rush these broad sweeping laws, <b>the
Government's costly scheme has targeted
all of us while ignoring just how easy it
is to circumvent data retention.</b> The
truth is, anyone who wants to protect their
privacy (yes, this includes people with
something to hide) has a huge range of
perfectly legal options to do so, including
simply avoiding Australian service
providers. Now that's just bad for business!
<br>
<br>
The impact of this is that Australians
familiar with technology will easily be able
to protect their data, while those that
aren't as comfortable with newer technology
will bear the brunt of the risks associated
with data retention. <br>
<br>
<b>Across Australia tomorrow, citizens will
be showing the government and Labor that
this law will be another costly white
elephant that doesn't make us any safer.</b>
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<b>Click here to sign up and learn how to go
dark: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/privacy/go-dark-against-data-retention/go-dark-against-data-retention?t=njyZ5SjZD&utm_content=7635&utm_campaign=You%20can%27t%20handle%20the%20data&utm_source=blast&utm_medium=email"
target="_blank">http://www.getup.org.au/dark</a></b>
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<br>
Alycia, for the GetUp team. <br>
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PS: If you've just got a moment, <b><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://cdn.getup.org.au/991-PROF-PIC-%281%29-%281%29.jpg?t=njyZ5SjZD&utm_content=7635&utm_campaign=You%20can%27t%20handle%20the%20data&utm_source=blast&utm_medium=email"
target="_blank">change your Facebook and
Twitter profile picture to this image to
help spread the word.</a></b> <br>
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PPS: Even the Government's Communications
Minister Malcolm Turnbull understands how
important metadata is and how easy it is to
avoid scrutiny. He has fessed up to using an
instant messaging app which avoids
retention, and joked last year that private
networks (VPNs) could be used to circumvent
data retention laws. By contrast, our Prime
Minister recalls never being that worried
about metadata back when he was a journalist
in the 1980's... at a time that pre-dated
widespread internet and mobile phone use.<sup>2</sup>
Go figure! <br>
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<i>References</i> <br>
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[1] Data retention plan amended for
journalists, but is it enough? The
Conversation, 20th March 2015. <br>
[2] Data retention: Journalists' union
labels Tony Abbott's defence of metadata
protections 'ludicrous', ABC News, Wednesday
18th March 2015.<br>
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