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counter-view...<br>
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Remembering that Telstra recently announced they'll charge $25 to
process a simple request - the same amount they charge a LEO.<br>
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If you've built even a dodgy lookup system, should it really take
more than 60 seconds to type in an IP address, a start date/time,
an end date/time, and have the lookup system (that the Gov will
help contribute to your reasonable costs to build *cough*) decrypt
the RADIUS database for the time window, and extract a dump of
records for that IP address?<br>
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If you think you'll be able to charge $500 - $1000, you'd better
be prepared to explain to the CAC why you have to have a live
person ruffling through a set of filing-cabinet of printed-out A4
sheets of paper with your records printed on them. They might be
the Gov't, but even they know we have computers do do this sort of
database lookup these days.<br>
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On 18/03/2015 1:27 PM, Andrew Yager wrote:<br>
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<div class="">We are taking the view that this is an exercise that
is equivalent of up to 2 hours technical services, and given the
costs of verifying and ensuring compliance, our standard cost
for a request will be $500 per request.</div>
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<div class="">For greater time periods (e.g. reporting on two
years), our charging rate will extend to $15 000 for this
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<div class="">More complicated requests (such as access logs from
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<div class="">I’d encourage everyone to ensure that their costs
are reasonable relating to the amount of work - and the
opportunity cost associated with complying with this daft
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<div class="">Hello Noggers,<br class="">
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I'm wondering what policies and pricing any/all of your
organisations have in place to "recover" costs when asked
for (meta-)data about ip addresses, customers and so on?<br
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Given the transition for 2-year retention and the
expansion of the (meta-)dataset to be retained, what plans
are in place to charge reasonable fees to state and
federal LEOs for the data?<br class="">
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Is $200 a fair sum of money for an ip address match up?<br
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Is $20,000 a fair sum of money for a dump of the (up to) 2
years of data for an ip address or customer?<br class="">
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