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--></style></head><body>I think this approach is spot on, the charge has to be fair and indicative of the effort and resources involved, and we will be taking the same approach.<div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div>Paul<br><br><br><div><span data-mailaddress="andrew@rwts.com.au" data-contactname="Andrew Yager" class="clickable"><span title="andrew@rwts.com.au">Andrew Yager</span><span class="detail"> <andrew@rwts.com.au></span></span> , 3/18/2015 1:24 PM:<br><blockquote class="mcnt mori" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:2px blue solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="mcnt"><div>Hi Terry,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We are taking the view that this is an exercise that is equivalent of up to 2 hours technical services, and given the costs of verifying and ensuring compliance, our standard cost for a request will be $500 per request.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For greater time periods (e.g. reporting on two years), our charging rate will extend to $15 000 for this service.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">More complicated requests (such as access logs from a web server) will also attract higher rates.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’d encourage everyone to ensure that their costs are reasonable relating to the amount of work - and the opportunity cost associated with complying with this daft legislation.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Andrew</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 18 Mar 2015, at 1:11 pm, Terry Sweetser <<a href="mailto:terry+AusNOG@skymesh.net.au" class="mailto" title="mailto:terry+AusNOG@skymesh.net.au">terry+AusNOG@skymesh.net.au</a>> wrote:</div><br class="mcntApple-interchange-newline"><div class="">Hello Noggers,<br class=""><br class="">I'm wondering what policies and pricing any/all of your organisations have in place to "recover" costs when asked for (meta-)data about ip addresses, customers and so on?<br class=""><br class="">Given the transition for 2-year retention and the expansion of the (meta-)dataset to be retained, what plans are in place to charge reasonable fees to state and federal LEOs for the data?<br class=""><br class="">Is $200 a fair sum of money for an ip address match up?<br class=""><br class="">Is $20,000 a fair sum of money for a dump of the (up to) 2 years of data for an ip address or customer?<br class=""><br class="">-- <br class=""><a href="http://about.me/terry.sweetser" class="" title="http://about.me/terry.sweetser" target="_blank">http://about.me/terry.sweetser</a><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">AusNOG mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" title="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" class="mailto">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br class=""><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank" title="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br class=""></div></blockquote><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>