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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I'll top-post only to point out that
      I've interspersed comments below...<br>
      On 16/03/2015 12:18 PM, Eric Pinkerton wrote:<br>
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            of the criticisms levelled at the Comms Alliance is that
            they (or perhaps the Gov’t spin) seems to claim it is
            representative of the industry as a whole.  </span></p>
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    Yes. However thats not an unreasonable view, given the Government
    considers they are representative of the industry as a whole,
    largely on account of there being no other peak industry body left.<br>
    Apart from Comms Alliance, which other industry representative body
    do you look to to represent your interests?<br>
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            my cynical but, I can’t help but feel that using this list
            and giving CEO’s roughly ½ a day to engage,  affords the
            Coms Alliance the ability to state that for the record they
            have remedied this and have now consulted the industry at
            large.</span></p>
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    I understand some may see it that way. However, I reached out to
    John when I heard about this letter, and asked him if it could be
    circulated wider. John didn't approach me to distribute it, I asked
    - and he agreed - over the weekend. He didn't need to.<br>
    I understand the timing is short. If its any consolation, this
    letter started within CA only midway through last week when somebody
    heard they might try to introduce the bill for debate tomorrow or
    Wednesday - so it has to be sent today in case they are debating it
    tomorrow. Thats the reason for the unreasonably short deadline.<br>
    I could have sat on my hands, and/or John could have formed a view
    that it was too late to bring in more people, and we wouldn't be
    having this discussion - but we didn't.  I think this is the better
    outcome, understand if others don't.<br>
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            will leave it up to the CEO’s et al on this list to
            determine whether this opportunity really feels like a fair
            dinkum effort to engage them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            I find this entire process to be a red herring because it is
            not the technicalities of collection that I find
            problematic, but rather the opaque and broken process that
            governs access to this data which, has never even on the
            table for discussion.
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    I'm sure the PJCIS would have liked to hear how processes for access
    to the data can be improved, as would your local MP. In my view it
    was on the table for discussion, courtesy of the reduction in the
    number of agencies and the purpose they can use that is permitted to
    request data in the first place, which is part of the amendments.<br>
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            we busy ourselves making bullets, and they might let us know
            who they are going to sell them to sometime next
            year…..perhaps.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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    Paul.<br>
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