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<div><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><b>From</b>: "Paul Julian" <paul@oxygennetworks.com.au><br />
<b>Sent</b>: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:47 PM<br />
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It has to be encrypted as part of the legislation Kris</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral<br />
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 27 February 2015 4:44 PM<br />
<b>To:</b> Phillip Grasso<br />
<b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br />
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Welcome to Metadata Retention</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Don't bother encrypting it, they probably either have the keys (or compel you to provide them) and/or can break the encryption.</span></p>
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Kristoffer Sheather</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">: "Phillip Grasso" <<a href="mailto:phillip.grasso@gmail.com">phillip.grasso@gmail.com</a>><br />
<b>Sent</b>: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:42 PM<br />
<b>To</b>: <a href="mailto:kris@cloudcentral.com.au">kris@cloudcentral.com.au</a><br />
<b>Cc</b>: "Peter Lawler" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@bleeter.id.au">ausnog@bleeter.id.au</a>>, "<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br />
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">did they specify what kind of storage conditions it needs to be stored under? </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">If not do it cheap as possible to keep costs to customers as long as possible; that sounds like jbod or a raid0 array[encrypted of course] </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral <<a href="mailto:kristoffer.sheather@cloudcentral.com.au" target="_blank">kristoffer.sheather@cloudcentral.com.au</a>> wrote: </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">That's exactly what they should do, isn't the government supposed to be all about "transparency" :) ?</span></p>
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Kristoffer Sheather</span></p>
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<b>Sent</b>: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:38 PM<br />
<b>To</b>: "Peter Lawler" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@bleeter.id.au" target="_blank">ausnog@bleeter.id.au</a>><br />
<b>Cc</b>: "<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br />
<b>Subject</b>: Re: [AusNOG] Welcome to Metadata Retention</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Mandatory Government Metadata surcharge tax^H^H^H: ~+$2 </span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Peter Lawler <<a href="mailto:ausnog@bleeter.id.au" target="_blank">ausnog@bleeter.id.au</a>> wrote: </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">On 27/02/15 13:21, Matt Perkins wrote:<br />
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> I have one prediction the roll out of this is going to be the biggest<br />
> debacle since pink bats.<br />
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Loathed to mention it as it's arguably OT, but there's a piece doing the<br />
rounds at the moment about the cost of the eHealth record stuff and how<br />
underutilised it has been by the general population.<br />
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As such, I think you're missing the relevant debacle comparator.<br />
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Pete. </span></p>
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