<div dir="ltr">There's 2 recommendations that go to requirements for storage of metadata, which are very much a work in progress:<br><br><div style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif">Recommendation 10<br><br></div><div style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif">The Committee recommends that the Explanatory Memorandum to the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Amendment (Data Retention) Bill 2014 clarify the requirements for service providers with regard to the retention, de-identification or destruction of data once the two year retention period has expired<br><br><div style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif">Recommendation 37<br><br></div><div style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif">The Committee recommends that the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Amendment (Data Retention) Bill 2014 be amended to require service providers to <span class="">encryp</span>t telecommunications data that has been retained for the purposes of the mandatory data retention regime.</div><div style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif"><b>To give effect to this recommendation, the Committee recommends that the Data Retention Implementation Working Group develop an appropriate standard of encryption to be incorporated into regulations</b>, and that the Communications Access Co-ordinator be required to consider a provider’s compliance with this standard as part of the Data Retention Implementation Plan process.</div><div style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif">Further, the Communications Access Co-ordinator should be given the </div><div style="font-size:20px;font-family:sans-serif">power to authorise other robust security measures in limited circumstances in which technical difficulties prevent encryption from being implemented in existing systems used by service providers.</div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 27 February 2015 at 16:46, Paul Julian <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paul@oxygennetworks.com.au" target="_blank">paul@oxygennetworks.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-AU"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">It has to be encrypted as part of the legislation Kris<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Regards<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Paul<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 27 February 2015 4:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> Phillip Grasso<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a></span></p><div><div class="h5"><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Welcome to Metadata Retention<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Don't bother encrypting it, they probably either have the keys (or compel you to provide them) and/or can break the encryption.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Regards,<br>Kristoffer Sheather</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">: "Phillip Grasso" <<a href="mailto:phillip.grasso@gmail.com" target="_blank">phillip.grasso@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Sent</b>: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:42 PM<br><b>To</b>: <a href="mailto:kris@cloudcentral.com.au" target="_blank">kris@cloudcentral.com.au</a><br><b>Cc</b>: "Peter Lawler" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@bleeter.id.au" target="_blank">ausnog@bleeter.id.au</a>>, "<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br><b>Subject</b>: Re: [AusNOG] Welcome to Metadata Retention</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">did they specify what kind of storage conditions it needs to be stored under?  <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">If not do it cheap as possible to keep costs to customers as long as possible; that sounds like jbod or a raid0 array[encrypted of course] <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">  <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral <<a href="mailto:kristoffer.sheather@cloudcentral.com.au" target="_blank">kristoffer.sheather@cloudcentral.com.au</a>> wrote: <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">That's exactly what they should do, isn't the government supposed to be all about "transparency" :) ?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Regards,<br>Kristoffer Sheather</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">: "Phillip Grasso" <<a href="mailto:phillip.grasso@gmail.com" target="_blank">phillip.grasso@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Sent</b>: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:38 PM<br><b>To</b>: "Peter Lawler" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@bleeter.id.au" target="_blank">ausnog@bleeter.id.au</a>><br><b>Cc</b>: "<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br><b>Subject</b>: Re: [AusNOG] Welcome to Metadata Retention</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">who's gonna pay for this? any increase in compliance costs normally end up costing the customer.  <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Wouldn't it be funny if most of the ISP's put on their bill notices: <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Mandatory Government Metadata surcharge tax^H^H^H: ~+$2 </span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">  <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Peter Lawler <<a href="mailto:ausnog@bleeter.id.au" target="_blank">ausnog@bleeter.id.au</a>> wrote: <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">On 27/02/15 13:21, Matt Perkins wrote:<br>><br>> I have one prediction the roll out of this is going to be the biggest<br>> debacle since pink bats.<br><br>Loathed to mention it as it's arguably OT, but there's a piece doing the<br>rounds at the moment about the cost of the eHealth record stuff and how<br>underutilised it has been by the general population.<br><br>As such, I think you're missing the relevant debacle comparator.<br><br>Pete. <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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