<div dir="ltr">Currently per black letter law interpretation of 187A2 means everything at all layers of the IP/TCP stack is required to be logged (because the paragraph relies on the definition of 'communication' as defined in the Telecommunications Act 1997, which is not appropriate to packet switched networks).<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><br></div>Then 187A4 grants exemptions, but it's poorly drafted, and doesn't read as if it was written by someone with an understanding of packet switched networks. Para 187A4 is, imo (ianal) too ambiguous currently, and can be argued to exempt nothing or everything,  as applied to packet switched networks.<br><br></div>Paul Wilkins<br><div><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On 27 February 2015 at 16:10, Paul Julian <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paul@oxygennetworks.com.au" target="_blank">paul@oxygennetworks.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-AU"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks for the link Paul, I find this interesting:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">“The Bill explicitly excludes anything that is web-browsing history or could amount to web-browsing history, such as a URL or IP address to which a person has browsed.”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I was under the impression from reading previous information that source/dest addresses were going to be part of the data set ?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Also included is tracking of emails which I don’t recall seeing before, I really wonder how much of this information will ever get used, I would love to be a storage vendor at this point in time </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Regards<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Paul<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Wilkins<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 27 February 2015 4:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] PJCIS report on data retention bill has been posted<u></u><u></u></span></p><span><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Read it and weep...<br><br><a href="http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/Data_Retention/Report" target="_blank">http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/Data_Retention/Report</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">Paul Wilkins<u></u><u></u></p></div></span></div></div><br></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
AusNOG mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div>
</div><br></div>