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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It has to be encrypted as part of the legislation Kris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 27 February 2015 4:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> Phillip Grasso<br><b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Welcome to Metadata Retention<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Don't bother encrypting it, they probably either have the keys (or compel you to provide them) and/or can break the encryption.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Regards,<br>Kristoffer Sheather</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>: "Phillip Grasso" <<a href="mailto:phillip.grasso@gmail.com">phillip.grasso@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Sent</b>: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:42 PM<br><b>To</b>: <a href="mailto:kris@cloudcentral.com.au">kris@cloudcentral.com.au</a><br><b>Cc</b>: "Peter Lawler" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@bleeter.id.au">ausnog@bleeter.id.au</a>>, "<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br><b>Subject</b>: Re: [AusNOG] Welcome to Metadata Retention</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>did they specify what kind of storage conditions it needs to be stored under? <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>If not do it cheap as possible to keep costs to customers as long as possible; that sounds like jbod or a raid0 array[encrypted of course] <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral <<a href="mailto:kristoffer.sheather@cloudcentral.com.au" target="_blank">kristoffer.sheather@cloudcentral.com.au</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>That's exactly what they should do, isn't the government supposed to be all about "transparency" :) ?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Regards,<br>Kristoffer Sheather</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>: "Phillip Grasso" <<a href="mailto:phillip.grasso@gmail.com" target="_blank">phillip.grasso@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Sent</b>: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:38 PM<br><b>To</b>: "Peter Lawler" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@bleeter.id.au" target="_blank">ausnog@bleeter.id.au</a>><br><b>Cc</b>: "<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br><b>Subject</b>: Re: [AusNOG] Welcome to Metadata Retention</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>who's gonna pay for this? any increase in compliance costs normally end up costing the customer. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Wouldn't it be funny if most of the ISP's put on their bill notices: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Mandatory Government Metadata surcharge tax^H^H^H: ~+$2 </span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Peter Lawler <<a href="mailto:ausnog@bleeter.id.au" target="_blank">ausnog@bleeter.id.au</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>On 27/02/15 13:21, Matt Perkins wrote:<br>><br>> I have one prediction the roll out of this is going to be the biggest<br>> debacle since pink bats.<br><br>Loathed to mention it as it's arguably OT, but there's a piece doing the<br>rounds at the moment about the cost of the eHealth record stuff and how<br>underutilised it has been by the general population.<br><br>As such, I think you're missing the relevant debacle comparator.<br><br>Pete. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>