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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>And the CC: line, there only needs to be one ausnog@list entry… </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>L</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jacob Gardiner<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 25 February 2015 12:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> kris@cloudcentral.com.au; Tim Raphael; Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral<br><b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] SPAM-LOW: Re: SPAM-MED: Re: Firewall<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div id="bloop_customfont"><div id="bloop_customfont"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Any chance we can avoid prepending the subject header each time it goes out the spam filter? I think it’s Kristoffer’s mail server?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id="bloop_sign_1424838058584261888"><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>-- <br>Jacob Gardiner<br><a href="https://twitter.com/jacobgardiner">@jacobgardiner</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>On 25 February 2015 at 12:24:39 pm, Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral (<a href="mailto:kristoffer.sheather@cloudcentral.com.au">kristoffer.sheather@cloudcentral.com.au</a>) wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>: "Tim Raphael" <<a href="mailto:raphael.timothy@gmail.com">raphael.timothy@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Sent</b>: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:38 AM<br><b>To</b>: <a href="mailto:kris@cloudcentral.com.au">kris@cloudcentral.com.au</a><br><b>Cc</b>: "<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br><b>Subject</b>: SPAM-LOW: Re: [AusNOG] SPAM-MED: Re: Firewall</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Network Function Virtualisation (NFV) is becoming a bigger and bigger deal with support for x86 in Cisco, Juniper and many other vendors improving by the week. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>> Certainly is.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>VyOS (formerly Vyatta) I know is in use by a lot of cloud providers as it provides a fairly stable platform for basic routing / firewall / VPN termination but I wouldn't want to run "core" network roles on it.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>> Why not?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>VMWare and their NSX Edge Services Gateway is also looking to be an option for the cloud services space with quite advanced features aimed at cloud tenants wanting greater control over routing, firewall, load balancing and SSL VPN features.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>> Very nice, but pricey. There are alternative methods to achieve the same end result.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>The offerings from Cisco (CSR1000V, NS-OSv) and Juniper (vSRX and vMX) are looking very promising also (licensing costs aside) for the possibility of running production network loads within x86 hardware.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>> Agreed, add the Brocade vRouter 5600 with Intel DPDK to that list, all of those options are pricey of course. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Just my 2c.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>- Tim<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 6:25 AM, Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral <<a href="mailto:kristoffer.sheather@cloudcentral.com.au" target="_blank">kristoffer.sheather@cloudcentral.com.au</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Yes, we are running Vyatta's for all of our sites. The speed is quite good (IMHO & YMMV).</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Regards,<br><br>Kristoffer Sheather<br>CloudCentral</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Mobile: <a href="tel:%2B61%20475%20048%20864" target="_blank">+61 475 048 864</a> | Switch:</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="tel:%2B61%202%206160%207624" target="_blank">+61 2 6160 7624</a> |<span style='color:black'> Email: <a href="mailto:kris@cloudcentral.com.au" target="_blank"><span style='color:#0000CC'>kris@cloudcentral.com.au</span></a><br>LinkedIn: <a href="http://au.linkedin.com/in/kristoffersheather" target="_blank"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=80 height=15 id="_x0000_i1026" src="http://www.linkedin.com/img/webpromo/btn_liprofile_blue_80x15.png" alt="View Kristoffer Sheather's profile on LinkedIn"></span></a> | Skype: kristoffer.sheather | Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/kristofferjon" target="_blank"><span style='color:#0000CC'>http://twitter.com/kristofferjon</span></a></span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>: "Alex Samad - Yieldbroker" <<a href="mailto:Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com" target="_blank">Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com</a>><br><b>Sent</b>: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 9:14 AM<br><b>To</b>: "Skeeve Stevens" <<a href="mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog@theispguy.com" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com</a>>, "Sam Sarkis-UIP" <<a href="mailto:ssarkis@unitedip.net.au" target="_blank">ssarkis@unitedip.net.au</a>><br><b>Cc</b>: "<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>>, "<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>><br><b>Subject</b>: SPAM-MED: Re: [AusNOG] Firewall</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Interesting, I just went to VMUG yesterday, listen to a lot about NSX… Previously tried to stay away because of the enterprise licensing cost, but relooking at it again.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I noticed nobody mentioned it in the hypervisor env</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Is anyone running soft routers (VMs/non Hardware) as an ISP/provider.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I thinking you can’t beat silicon for pure switching … routing ?? and then coupled with something further up the stack, does switching/routing on the host of a hypervisor make more sense ?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>A</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>AusNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of</b> Skeeve Stevens<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 24 February 2015 10:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> Sam Sarkis-UIP<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>; <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Firewall</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sounds like an odd request... you mean it MUST be a Server based Firewall?</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>If that is an issue, get around it by going VMware and using vASA or vSRX?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#20497D'>...Skeeve</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#20497D'>--</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#20497D'>Skeeve Stevens - </span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#20497D'>The ISP Guy</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#20497D'>Email: <a href="mailto:skeeve@theispguy.com" target="_blank">skeeve@theispguy.com</a> ; </span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#20497D'>Twitter: </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#20497D'><a href="https://twitter.com/TheISPGuy" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>@TheISPGuy</span></a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span 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style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Sam Sarkis-UIP <<a href="mailto:ssarkis@unitedip.net.au" target="_blank">ssarkis@unitedip.net.au</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hi All,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I know this is strange but we have a specific requirement for a customer.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Does anyone know or recommend a firewall / UTM software that can be installed on an existing Windows, Redhat, SuSE, or Centos Server.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>We would prefer a commercial package. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>We cannot overwrite the existing os and have to work within any of the above mentions platforms only.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Kind Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#888888'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p 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