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<div class="yiv0551130480MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">The spec only says 1G nic, but I was told they will come with 10G Nic.</span></div> 
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 25 February 2015 10:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alex Samad - Yieldbroker<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Sam Sarkis-UIP; ausnog@lists.ausnog.net; ausnog@ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Firewall</span></div> 
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<div class="yiv0551130480MsoNormal">For example... in my offices in Asia, it was so damn hard to obtain/source equipment from distribution, taxes, bribes, delays, etc... we now longer sell Cisco/Juniper hardware.</div> 
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<div class="yiv0551130480MsoNormal">We deploy only easily to obtain server hardware - mostly Dell or HP, and put ESXi (looking at other options too), and run up vSRX (Firefly), vASA, vThunder and many other fully virtualised platforms.</div> 
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<div class="yiv0551130480MsoNormal">This enables the customers to get what they need in hours, and not weeks/months.  The last SRX240's I ordered in SE Asia had an ETA of 7 weeks... I mean, wtf?  Most have grace periods of licensing at 14-90 days, so the customer can run
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<div class="yiv0551130480MsoNormal">I find going to 10Gb in these environments more challenging, but getting easier... but at the multi-gigabit capacity throughput, it works perfectly.  The only struggle initially was to get customers to accept a Juniper or Cisco with a HP
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<div class="yiv0551130480MsoNormal">On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com">Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com</a>> wrote:</div> 
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<div class="yiv0551130480MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Interesting, I just went to VMUG yesterday, listen to a lot about NSX… Previously tried to stay away
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<div class="yiv0551130480MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">I noticed nobody mentioned it in the hypervisor env</span></div> 
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<div class="yiv0551130480MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">I thinking you can’t beat silicon for pure switching … routing ?? and then coupled with something
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 24 February 2015 10:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sam Sarkis-UIP<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>;
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Firewall</span></div> 
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<div class="yiv0551130480MsoNormal" style="">Sounds like an odd request... you mean it MUST be a Server based Firewall?</div> 
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<div class="yiv0551130480MsoNormal" style="">If that is an issue, get around it by going VMware and using vASA or vSRX?</div> 
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<div class="yiv0551130480MsoNormal" style="">On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Sam Sarkis-UIP <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ssarkis@unitedip.net.au" target="_blank" href="mailto:ssarkis@unitedip.net.au">ssarkis@unitedip.net.au</a>> wrote:</div> 
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<div class="yiv0551130480MsoNormal" style="">I know this is strange but we have a specific requirement for a customer.</div> 
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<div class="yiv0551130480MsoNormal" style="">Does anyone know or recommend a firewall / UTM software that can be installed on an existing Windows, Redhat, SuSE, or Centos Server.</div> 
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<div class="yiv0551130480MsoNormal" style="">We would prefer a commercial package. 
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<div class="yiv0551130480MsoNormal" style="">We cannot overwrite the existing os and have to work within any of the above mentions platforms only.</div> 
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