<div dir="ltr">If you want pure speed and grunt, then physical boxes are the way to go.<div><br></div><div>But, when you're requirements are less than a few gig, then yes, virtualised equipment is just fine.</div><div><br></div><div>For example... in my offices in Asia, it was so damn hard to obtain/source equipment from distribution, taxes, bribes, delays, etc... we now longer sell Cisco/Juniper hardware.</div><div><br></div><div>We deploy only easily to obtain server hardware - mostly Dell or HP, and put ESXi (looking at other options too), and run up vSRX (Firefly), vASA, vThunder and many other fully virtualised platforms.</div><div><br></div><div>This enables the customers to get what they need in hours, and not weeks/months. The last SRX240's I ordered in SE Asia had an ETA of 7 weeks... I mean, wtf? Most have grace periods of licensing at 14-90 days, so the customer can run up things in an emergency. They also get to control the grade of hardware redundancy they want - which is often good in some countries that do not even have SmartNet/JCare local services.</div><div><br></div><div>If the customer wants serious redundancy, they can upgrade to full VMware at any time.</div><div><br></div><div>I find going to 10Gb in these environments more challenging, but getting easier... but at the multi-gigabit capacity throughput, it works perfectly. The only struggle initially was to get customers to accept a Juniper or Cisco with a HP Box on the front. But at the end of the day, it can do everything (and way way more) than they ever could by using hardware - and much sooner.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><font color="#002060" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="3"><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)"><br>...Skeeve</p><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)"><br>--</p><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Skeeve Stevens - <span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">The ISP Guy</span></p></font></font><font color="#002060" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="3"><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Email: <a href="mailto:skeeve@theispguy.com" target="_blank">skeeve@theispguy.com</a> ; <span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Twitter: </span><a href="https://twitter.com/TheISPGuy" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px" target="_blank">@TheISPGuy</a></p></font></font><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;color:rgb(32,73,125);font-family:Calibri">Blog: <a href="http://theispguy.com/" target="_blank">TheISPGuy.com</a> ; Facebook: </span><font color="#20497d" face="Calibri"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/theispguy" target="_blank">TheISPGuy</a></font><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><font color="#002060"><font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="3"><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Linkedin: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">/in/skeeve</a> ; <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Expert360: </span><a href="https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">Profile</a></p></font></font></div><div><blockquote type="cite" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com" target="_blank">Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Interesting, I just went to VMUG yesterday, listen to a lot about NSX… Previously tried to stay away because of the enterprise licensing cost, but relooking
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I noticed nobody mentioned it in the hypervisor env<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I thinking you can’t beat silicon for pure switching … routing ?? and then coupled with something further up the stack, does switching/routing on the host of
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 24 February 2015 10:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sam Sarkis-UIP<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Firewall<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If that is an issue, get around it by going VMware and using vASA or vSRX?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi All,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I know this is strange but we have a specific requirement for a customer.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Does anyone know or recommend a firewall / UTM software that can be installed on an existing Windows, Redhat, SuSE, or Centos Server.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We cannot overwrite the existing os and have to work within any of the above mentions platforms only.<u></u><u></u></p>
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