Hi Guys,<div><br></div><div>Sorry again I'm also looking for 2x System engineers and 2x network engineers that's are located in Perth. Must have extensive knowledge in 3G network implementation. Please contact me off list for more information. <br><br>On Tuesday, 24 February 2015, Paul Tyquin <<a href="mailto:paul@godedicated.com.au">paul@godedicated.com.au</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Guys,<div><br></div><div>I'm looking for a Network and Systems engineer for Melbourne. If anyone's interested contact me off list.<br><br>On Tuesday, 24 February 2015, Diogo Montagner <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','diogo.montagner@gmail.com');" target="_blank">diogo.montagner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">One thing I value the most when doing technical interviews is identifying the attitude and behaviour of the candidate under different circumstances. I agree this is quite difficult to analyse through a phone interview but what I always look for in the candidate is how quick he can learn new things, adapt to changes and the approach to solve problems that are outside of his comfort zone.<div><br></div><div>And yes, you still need to check his technical knowledge too.<br><div><br></div><div>Surely experience is important, but how the candidate built his experience, IMO, is the key factor. This will tell you how fast the candidate can master a topic and how he may fit in the position you are offering.</div><div><br></div><div>./diogo -montagner</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div>./diogo -montagner<br>JNCIE-SP 0x41A</div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Ross Annetts <span dir="ltr"><<a>ross.annetts@digitalpacific.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I have had some experience in interviewing new network engineer
candidates (at final stages of testing technical ability) for the
web hosting space where a variety of skills is preferred.<br>
<br>
I think the term Jack of all trades can imply "master of none" and
shouldn't be used loosely in a resume or interview, as we all have
limited time and energy it is an uphill battle trying to be an
expert in all things and can indicate spreading yourself thin. I
think you clearly need to excel in a specific need of the employer
and then supplement this with a variety of skills/experience, having
your resume reflect this as well as the way you present yourself. Do
your research on the company and what they do before hand, what
hardware/systems they use etc.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Ross<div><div><br>
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<div>On 22/02/2015 3:10 pm, Michael Wheeler
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I'm yet to find a company that is ok with "jack of
all trades" resume in Melbourne out of the 50+ jobs I've applied
for. Apparently showing any sort of interest outside of Network
Engineering results in your resume being thrown out.
<div><br>
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<div>Anyone aware of any jobs that might be lurking around
Melbourne? At this stage I'd be willing to answer phones for a
NOC.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 22 February 2015 at 13:25, Cameron
Ferdinands <span dir="ltr"><<a>cameron@jferdinands.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">+1 I wrote
out this long reply but this pretty much.... nail....<br>
head.. Especially about "jack of all trades" fitting into
large<br>
networks well, very well. When I look around this is a
commonality of<br>
our best people.<br>
<span><br>
> Apply for positions at your dream company, even if
you think you might not cut it. Many/most of my colleagues
never thought they'd get the job, but did.<br>
<br>
</span>Absolutely, what do you have to lose? Worst case you
get a job offer<br>
to present to your boss for that raise.<br>
<br>
The other note, virtualization of network equipment has
never been<br>
easier, and if you run out of compute there's plenty of that
on tap<br>
now (<shameless plug> AWS </shameless plug>) if
you want those 400<br>
routers, that's within your reach for less then $50 for a
couple of<br>
hours. -- If you have issues getting $50 together for AWS,
do let me<br>
know.<br>
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On 22 February 2015 at 14:02, Ben Buxton <<a>bb.ausnog@bb.cactii.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
><br>
> I will chime in here, I've interviewed well over a
hundred network engineer<br>
> candidates for Google (hi Phil!). Some personal
thoughts here...<br>
><br>
> On Sun Feb 22 2015 at 9:14:36 AM Skeeve Stevens<br>
> <<a>skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I'm seeing a massive amount of foreign
application these days (90%) but<br>
>> equally missing relevant experience and the
certifications rarely seem to be<br>
>> as 'solid' as locals.<br>
>><br>
>> What strategies are Google/AWS using to find
good candidates locally - if<br>
>> you don't mind telling us?<br>
><br>
><br>
> I think I've found your problem.<br>
><br>
> 90+% of the world's network engineers live outside
Australia, so it only<br>
> makes sense that you will get a substantial number
of applications from<br>
> overseas.<br>
><br>
> My experience tells me the following
generalisations (there are exceptions):<br>
><br>
> - Certs are a poor signal that someone may be a
good candidate. Candidates<br>
> with and without certs are equally likely to
perform well in a technical<br>
> interview and job. All it tells me is that they can
memorise and rattle off<br>
> the vendor literature. In fact, I tend to find that
those with large cert<br>
> counts are particularly poor candidates as they
seem to lack actual<br>
> experience and cant work through oddball real-life
problems.<br>
><br>
> - The location of a candidate has no correlation
with how good they are.<br>
> There are equally good candidates from around the
world. You need to seek<br>
> locally first to get a 457 i think, but there's
only 1% of candidates<br>
> locally.<br>
><br>
> - Candidates who have worked in large companies can
often have very narrow<br>
> experience due to siloing. They may have just
touched the firewalls, or the<br>
> access side, or the peering edge. Whereas often
candidates from smallish<br>
> companies/networks often have had to be "jack of
all trades" and their<br>
> dealing with knock-on effects across infrastructure
mean they can quickly<br>
> become brilliant engineers at large networks.<br>
><br>
> So by excluding (or strongly biasing against)
foreign candidates, those<br>
> without certs, and those from smaller companies,
you have just gone and<br>
> dropped your pool of quality engineers by 90%.
There's your problem.<br>
><br>
> Go and find good engineers by speaking with them
about interesting<br>
> engineering challenges rather than first looking
for CCIE numbers. And be<br>
> open to global candidates.<br>
><br>
>><br>
>> Or... what advice would you give to engineers
who might be missing in some<br>
>> experience, to help them fill the gaps?<br>
><br>
><br>
> Be curious. Turn on interesting protocols in a lab
and fire up<br>
> wireshark/tcpdump on them. Break them in
interesting ways (and see what<br>
> tcpdump shows). Write some software to do tedious
tasks for you.<br>
><br>
> Dont just memorise the cert cram material. This
becomes really obvious to a<br>
> seasoned interviewer.<br>
><br>
> Apply for positions at your dream company, even if
you think you might not<br>
> cut it. Many/most of my colleagues never thought
they'd get the job, but<br>
> did.<br>
><br>
> Unfortunately it seems you may need certs to get
past some resume<br>
> screeners...but you probably wont be happy working
for those companies.<br>
><br>
> BB<br>
><br>
><br>
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