Hi Guys,<div><br></div><div>I'm looking for a Network and Systems engineer for Melbourne. If anyone's interested contact me off list.<br><br>On Tuesday, 24 February 2015, Diogo Montagner <<a href="mailto:diogo.montagner@gmail.com">diogo.montagner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">One thing I value the most when doing technical interviews is identifying the attitude and behaviour of the candidate under different circumstances. I agree this is quite difficult to analyse through a phone interview but what I always look for in the candidate is how quick he can learn new things, adapt to changes and the approach to solve problems that are outside of his comfort zone.<div><br></div><div>And yes, you still need to check his technical knowledge too.<br><div><br></div><div>Surely experience is important, but how the candidate built his experience, IMO, is the key factor. This will tell you how fast the candidate can master a topic and how he may fit in the position you are offering.</div><div><br></div><div>./diogo -montagner</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div>./diogo -montagner<br>JNCIE-SP 0x41A</div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Ross Annetts <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ross.annetts@digitalpacific.com.au');" target="_blank">ross.annetts@digitalpacific.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    I have had some experience in interviewing new network engineer
    candidates (at final stages of testing technical ability) for the
    web hosting space where a variety of skills is preferred.<br>
    <br>
    I think the term Jack of all trades can imply "master of none" and
    shouldn't be used loosely in a resume or interview, as we all have
    limited time and energy it is an uphill battle trying to be an
    expert in all things and can indicate spreading yourself thin. I
    think you clearly need to excel in a specific need of the employer
    and then supplement this with a variety of skills/experience, having
    your resume reflect this as well as the way you present yourself. Do
    your research on the company and what they do before hand, what
    hardware/systems they use etc.<br>
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    Regards,<br>
    Ross<div><div><br>
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    <div>On 22/02/2015 3:10 pm, Michael Wheeler
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I'm yet to find a company that is ok with "jack of
        all trades" resume in Melbourne out of the 50+ jobs I've applied
        for. Apparently showing any sort of interest outside of Network
        Engineering results in your resume being thrown out. 
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        <div>Anyone aware of any jobs that might be lurking around
          Melbourne? At this stage I'd be willing to answer phones for a
          NOC.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 22 February 2015 at 13:25, Cameron
          Ferdinands <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cameron@jferdinands.com');" target="_blank">cameron@jferdinands.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">+1 I wrote
            out this long reply but this pretty much.... nail....<br>
            head.. Especially about "jack of all trades" fitting into
            large<br>
            networks well, very well. When I look around this is a
            commonality of<br>
            our best people.<br>
            <span><br>
              > Apply for positions at your dream company, even if
              you think you might not cut it. Many/most of my colleagues
              never thought they'd get the job, but did.<br>
              <br>
            </span>Absolutely, what do you have to lose? Worst case you
            get a job offer<br>
            to present to your boss for that raise.<br>
            <br>
            The other note, virtualization of network equipment has
            never been<br>
            easier, and if you run out of compute there's plenty of that
            on tap<br>
            now (<shameless plug> AWS </shameless plug>) if
            you want those 400<br>
            routers, that's within your reach for less then $50 for a
            couple of<br>
            hours. -- If you have issues getting $50 together for AWS,
            do let me<br>
            know.<br>
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                On 22 February 2015 at 14:02, Ben Buxton <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bb.ausnog@bb.cactii.net');" target="_blank">bb.ausnog@bb.cactii.net</a>>
                wrote:<br>
                ><br>
                > I will chime in here, I've interviewed well over a
                hundred network engineer<br>
                > candidates for Google (hi Phil!). Some personal
                thoughts here...<br>
                ><br>
                > On Sun Feb 22 2015 at 9:14:36 AM Skeeve Stevens<br>
                > <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skeeve%2Bausnog@theispguy.com');" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com</a>>
                wrote:<br>
                >><br>
                >><br>
                >> I'm seeing a massive amount of foreign
                application these days (90%) but<br>
                >> equally missing relevant experience and the
                certifications rarely seem to be<br>
                >> as 'solid' as locals.<br>
                >><br>
                >> What strategies are Google/AWS using to find
                good candidates locally - if<br>
                >> you don't mind telling us?<br>
                ><br>
                ><br>
                > I think I've found your problem.<br>
                ><br>
                > 90+% of the world's network engineers live outside
                Australia, so it only<br>
                > makes sense that you will get a substantial number
                of applications from<br>
                > overseas.<br>
                ><br>
                > My experience tells me the following
                generalisations (there are exceptions):<br>
                ><br>
                > - Certs are a poor signal that someone may be a
                good candidate. Candidates<br>
                > with and without certs are equally likely to
                perform well in a technical<br>
                > interview and job. All it tells me is that they can
                memorise and rattle off<br>
                > the vendor literature. In fact, I tend to find that
                those with large cert<br>
                > counts are particularly poor candidates as they
                seem to lack actual<br>
                > experience and cant work through oddball real-life
                problems.<br>
                ><br>
                > - The location of a candidate has no correlation
                with how good they are.<br>
                > There are equally good candidates from around the
                world. You need to seek<br>
                > locally first to get a 457 i think, but there's
                only 1% of candidates<br>
                > locally.<br>
                ><br>
                > - Candidates who have worked in large companies can
                often have very narrow<br>
                > experience due to siloing. They may have just
                touched the firewalls, or the<br>
                > access side, or the peering edge. Whereas often
                candidates from smallish<br>
                > companies/networks often have had to be "jack of
                all trades" and their<br>
                > dealing with knock-on effects across infrastructure
                mean they can quickly<br>
                > become brilliant engineers at large networks.<br>
                ><br>
                > So by excluding (or strongly biasing against)
                foreign candidates, those<br>
                > without certs, and those from smaller companies,
                you have just gone and<br>
                > dropped your pool of quality engineers by 90%.
                There's your problem.<br>
                ><br>
                > Go and find good engineers by speaking with them
                about interesting<br>
                > engineering challenges rather than first looking
                for CCIE numbers. And be<br>
                > open to global candidates.<br>
                ><br>
                >><br>
                >> Or... what advice would you give to engineers
                who might be missing in some<br>
                >> experience, to help them fill the gaps?<br>
                ><br>
                ><br>
                > Be curious. Turn on interesting protocols in a lab
                and fire up<br>
                > wireshark/tcpdump on them. Break them in
                interesting ways (and see what<br>
                > tcpdump shows). Write some software to do tedious
                tasks for you.<br>
                ><br>
                > Dont just memorise the cert cram material. This
                becomes really obvious to a<br>
                > seasoned interviewer.<br>
                ><br>
                > Apply for positions at your dream company, even if
                you think you might not<br>
                > cut it. Many/most of my colleagues never thought
                they'd get the job, but<br>
                > did.<br>
                ><br>
                > Unfortunately it seems you may need certs to get
                past some resume<br>
                > screeners...but you probably wont be happy working
                for those companies.<br>
                ><br>
                > BB<br>
                ><br>
                ><br>
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