<div dir="ltr">Phillip/Cameron,<div><br></div><div>Are you guys finding it hard to find good candidates?   There are decent people out there, but also a lot of very average people.  Experience in working in large environments seems to be the biggest missing bit... which given the size of the industry in Australia is very understandable.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm seeing a massive amount of foreign application these days (90%) but equally missing relevant experience and the certifications rarely seem to be as 'solid' as locals.</div><div><br></div><div>What strategies are Google/AWS using to find good candidates locally - if you don't mind telling us?</div><div><br></div><div>Or... what advice would you give to engineers who might be missing in some experience, to help them fill the gaps?</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><font color="#002060" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="3"><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)"><br>...Skeeve</p><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)"><br>--</p><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Skeeve Stevens - <span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">The ISP Guy</span></p></font></font><font color="#002060" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="3"><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Email: <a href="mailto:skeeve@theispguy.com" target="_blank">skeeve@theispguy.com</a> ; <span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Twitter: </span><a href="https://twitter.com/TheISPGuy" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px" target="_blank">@TheISPGuy</a></p></font></font><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;color:rgb(32,73,125);font-family:Calibri">Blog: <a href="http://theispguy.com/" target="_blank">TheISPGuy.com</a> ; Facebook: </span><font color="#20497d" face="Calibri"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/theispguy" target="_blank">TheISPGuy</a></font><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><font color="#002060"><font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="3"><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Linkedin: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">/in/skeeve</a> ; <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Expert360: </span><a href="https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">Profile</a></p></font></font></div><div><blockquote type="cite" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Phillip Grasso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:phillip.grasso@gmail.com" target="_blank">phillip.grasso@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Love the job hiring threads - I can't help myself. As always Google is looking for folks - head over to browse <a href="http://Google.com.au/jobs" target="_blank">Google.com.au/jobs</a></p>
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<p dir="ltr">Best regards<br>
   Phill.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 20/02/2015 5:55 pm, "Cameron Ferdinands" <<a href="mailto:cameron@jferdinands.com" target="_blank">cameron@jferdinands.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I'm looking for _many_ Network Engineers -- in Sydney! At different experience/skill levels!<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.amazon.jobs/jobs/269255/-amazon-web-services-network-engineer" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.jobs/jobs/269255/-amazon-web-services-network-engineer</a><br></div><div><a href="http://www.amazon.jobs/jobs/303812/network-development-engineer-amazon-web-services" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.jobs/jobs/303812/network-development-engineer-amazon-web-services</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Shoot me a message to find out more!</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 20 February 2015 at 09:13, Jared Hirst <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jared.hirst@serversaustralia.com.au" target="_blank">jared.hirst@serversaustralia.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I am also after a network engineer!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><a href="http://jobsonthecoast.com.au/centralcoast/jobs/level-3-network-administrator/" target="_blank">http://jobsonthecoast.com.au/centralcoast/jobs/level-3-network-administrator/</a></font><br></div><font face="yw-38d9caf855b5e04dc775b39cc0ede35018e8528d-d8ba07b6640cc53e2b0d805aa353daba--o"></font></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Skeeve Stevens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>On <a href="http://Seek.com.au" target="_blank">Seek.com.au</a> - <a href="http://www.seek.com.au/job/28150202?pos=1&type=standout" target="_blank">http://www.seek.com.au/job/28150202?pos=1&type=standout</a></div><div><br></div><div>I know a bit about this role, so feel free to chat to me offline if you are wondering if you are suitable.... or just apply directly :)</div><div><br></div><div>I'm helping them find the right person... hardest thing is knowing who is out there and looking for a role like this.  I will be in Japan at the Apricot/APNIC conference in a couple of weeks if you're there and you are interested in the role and would like to catch-up and chat about it.</div><div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font color="#002060" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="3"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)">...Skeeve</p><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)"><br>--</p><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Skeeve Stevens - <span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">The ISP Guy</span></p></font></font><font color="#002060" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="3"><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Email: <a href="mailto:skeeve@theispguy.com" target="_blank">skeeve@theispguy.com</a> ; <span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Twitter: </span><a href="https://twitter.com/TheISPGuy" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px" target="_blank">@TheISPGuy</a></p></font></font><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;color:rgb(32,73,125);font-family:Calibri">Blog: <a href="http://theispguy.com/" target="_blank">TheISPGuy.com</a> ; Facebook: </span><font color="#20497d" face="Calibri"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/theispguy" target="_blank">TheISPGuy</a></font><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><font color="#002060"><font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="3"><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Linkedin: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">/in/skeeve</a> ; <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Expert360: </span><a href="https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">Profile</a></p></font></font></div><div><blockquote type="cite" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-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