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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Skeeve Stevens <<a href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think the burden on these organisations should be to ASK the industry, not expect us to call them.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Setup a wufoo form with a bunch of questions and post on ausnog asking us to fill it out... you'd probably get a few dozen responses.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just feels like the crazy Christian groups like Family First who have the ear of the government, yet don't represent the actual Christian community.<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Skeeve - how do you know what position Comms Alliance is taking in the current negotiations and how do you know it differs from your position?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Did you read Paul Brooks detailed response, to you, last night? Why do you feel that you are somehow being excluded from the process?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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...Skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#20497D">Skeeve Stevens - </span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#20497D">The ISP Guy</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#20497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#20497D">Email: <a href="mailto:skeeve@theispguy.com" target="_blank">skeeve@theispguy.com</a> ; </span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#20497D">Twitter: </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#20497D"><a href="https://twitter.com/TheISPGuy" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">@TheISPGuy</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Paul Brooks <<a href="mailto:pbrooks-ausnog@layer10.com.au" target="_blank">pbrooks-ausnog@layer10.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<u>all</u> Australian ISP's supported metadata collection when, some of us very much don't.
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<p class="MsoNormal">They need to word their releases better "our members" agree not "australian isp's".<o:p></o:p></p>
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Sure - understand that. Did you call them and make your concerns known? What was their response?<br>
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