<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_92219"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_92220">The funny thing is that it is also a theoretically dumb idea - Telstra Wifi would be removing 'premium priced' traffic from Telstra's 3G/4G networks. They're obviously doing it because of congestion/load problems, however they're fundamentally building a newer, 'lower quality' network that is or should cannibalise the 'premium price ' revenue they receive from their 3G/4G network. In theory they should be rolling out more 3G/4G micro base stations to increase capacity instead, allowing them to continue to charge 3G/4G premium prices. The case for Wifi instead of 3G/4G base stations must be exceptionally compelling.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_92219"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_92219">I wouldn't be all that surprised if Telstra are trying to charge for public Wifi bandwidth at close to the premiums that their 3G/4G traffic generates, despite the costs and quality being (theoretically) much lower.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_92219"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_92219">I've also wondered about other carriers gaining wholesale access to either the Wifi network or the public phone booths to install their own APs. Telstra have an advantage here that no other carrier has here, because no other carrier has so many locations to easily deploy Wifi APs that are located so close to where the public are. 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border-collapse: collapse;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_94442"><div class="link-enhancr-element" style="height: 1px; background-color: #e5e5e5; font-size: 1px; line-height:0px" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_94441"> </div></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_92219"><span><br></span></div><br> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_92135"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_92134"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_92133"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_92303"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_92132"> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_93278"><span style="font-weight:bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_93277">From:</span></b> David Hughes <david@hughes.com.au><br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_93276"><span style="font-weight: bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_93275">To:</span></b> Ross Annetts <ross.annetts@digitalpacific.com.au> <br><b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_93274"><span style="font-weight: bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_93273">Cc:</span></b> "ausnog@lists.ausnog.net (AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net)" <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 17 February 2015, 11:00<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [AusNOG] wifi phone calls<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_92136"><br><div id="yiv4624821265"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_92138"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_92137"><br clear="none"></div>They are rolling out a thousand hotspots as attachment to public phone booths. I have a couple in my immediate neighbourhood. If you are a Telstra customer you can use their public wifi.<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_93279"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_93280">Smart idea as it'll take a bunch of load off the mobile data network. Getting backhaul from the phone booth shouldn't be a problem for them :) The ones I've seen have been in popular restaurant strips etc so there should be a reasonable density of people to service.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_93281"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_93282"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_93442">Thanks</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424125599367_93447">David</div><div>...</div><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yiv4624821265yqt2106735066" id="yiv4624821265yqt27680"><div><br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"><div><div>On 17/02/2015, at 9:52 AM, Ross Annetts <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ross.annetts@digitalpacific.com.au" target="_blank" href="mailto:ross.annetts@digitalpacific.com.au">ross.annetts@digitalpacific.com.au</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none" class="yiv4624821265Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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That has already happened with LTE. Something you may be interested
in though is I did recently notice a wifi icon on a telstra public
telephone:<br clear="none">
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<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv4624821265moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="https://www.telstra.com.au/broadband/wifi">https://www.telstra.com.au/broadband/wifi</a><br clear="none">
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So maybe they could start using them for voice at some point.<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv4624821265moz-cite-prefix">On 17/02/2015 10:45 am, Alex Samad -
Yieldbroker wrote:<br clear="none">
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<blockquote type="cite"><div class="yiv4624821265MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">I
guess the real driving question I was asking was not weather
4g/3g is better than wifi, but more does the voice network
disappear into a data network carrying voice. </span></div><div class="yiv4624821265MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">A</span></div>
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Regards,
Ross Annetts</pre>
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