<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 16 Feb 2015, at 3:20 pm, Ross Annetts <<a href="mailto:ross.annetts@digitalpacific.com.au" class="">ross.annetts@digitalpacific.com.au</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
  
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    LTE (4G) is already all IP and as already mentioned is better suited
    for long distances as it handles diffraction, reflection and
    refraction of signals better than all
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    802.11 technologies at the moment. The main benefit of using Wifi as
    a supplement to Mobile networking is due to the limited sprectrum
    and ever growing devices and needs of users for bandwidth.<br class="">
    <br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>T-Mo in the USA does WIFI calling (<a href="http://www.t-mobile.com/offer/wifi-calling-wifi-extenders.html" class="">http://www.t-mobile.com/offer/wifi-calling-wifi-extenders.html</a>)</div><div><br class=""></div><div>T-Mo have some unfortunate higher frequency licenses in some areas in the USA - so they don’t get into buildings that well.  But if you’ve got decent WIFI coverage in your building/house then you’re able to get/make calls.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Also means if you’re in a remote area that has broadband through other means it works.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>So,</div><div>- If you’re travelling overseas then you get zero cost call/sms to/from your phone.</div><div>- you can do wierd things like have a 4G hotspot from another provider purely for allowing your mobile to work in remote areas.  </div><div><br class=""></div><div>MMC</div><div><br class=""></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class="">
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/02/2015 10:08 am, Scott Wilson
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      <div dir="ltr" class="">Telstra are trialling voice over LTE with their
        "4GX" (700mhz LTE-A) product.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 17 February 2015 at 09:06, Scott
          Howard <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:scott@doc.net.au" target="_blank" class="">scott@doc.net.au</a>></span>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="">Mobile networks have ranges measured in up to
              (10's of) kilometres.  Wifi networks have ranges measured
              in hundreds of metres - presuming these's nothing too
              solid to block them.
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              <div class="">Providers like Republic Wifi work well simply because
                the majority of the time most people are around good
                wifi signals, but they still need to fill the holes of
                coverage - which basically starts the moment you walk
                out of the front door.  I have multiple friends that use
                Republic and couldn't be happier - they generally say
                that the quality isn't quite as good as standard mobile,
                but for the price they are happy.  (FreedomPop is a
                different story, and not a company I'd recommend going
                near)<br class="">
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                <div class="">However as far as "VOIP" for mobile call, that's
                  happening.  In the US, Verizon has been doing
                  Voice-over-LTE (VoLTE) for some time, and others will
                  likely follow.  For Verizon this is a big win as it
                  allows devices on their CDMA network to handle "voice"
                  and data simultaneously (as it's all data) - something
                  they haven't been able to do before now.  The LTE spec
                  fully supports voice-over-data, and it's expected all
                  carriers will move to it eventually.</div>
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                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at
                          2:45 PM, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com" target="_blank" class="">Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com</a>></span>
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                            So I saw this whilst I was reading Slashdot.<br class="">
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                            <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/15/02/16/1627240/cellphone-start-ups-handle-calls-with-wi-fi" target="_blank" class="">http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/15/02/16/1627240/cellphone-start-ups-handle-calls-with-wi-fi</a><br class="">
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                            This got me thinking, if you took money out
                            of the equation and politics (sic).  Would
                            it be better for use to have a completely
                            wifi wireless network, get rid of the mix of
                            technology and just have devices that do
                            some sort of VOIP.  I am presuming running
                            an IP network is better than a GSM/3g/4g.<br class="">
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                            How much better would that be ?<br class="">
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