<p dir="ltr">Ah, sorry, that's a Tolkien ring. My bad.</p>
<p dir="ltr">:)</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 15/02/2015 4:26 PM, "Robert Hudson" <<a href="mailto:hudrob@gmail.com">hudrob@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">One ring to rule them all? :)</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 15/02/2015 3:54 PM, "Serge Burjak" <<a href="mailto:sburjak@systech.com.au" target="_blank">sburjak@systech.com.au</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I recall my first Token Ring Install...</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 15 February 2015 at 14:32, Peter Betyounan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:peter@serversaustralia.com.au" target="_blank">peter@serversaustralia.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Amiga 500 was my choice on machine back then :) </div><div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 12:45 PM, James Braunegg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:james.braunegg@micron21.com" target="_blank">james.braunegg@micron21.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I could only afford Tape on the C64 and VIC20… in fact my C64 is still at my parents place under the house somewhere.<u></u><u></u></span></p><span>
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<p class="MsoNormal">BNC's?? Lol, you youngens :-p We had BBC Micros running on Econet, backed into an Apricot with a very hacked together interface to an external hard disk.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Speaking of, did anyone else have a hard disk on their C64? I've never met anyone else that had one! (2MB, damned thing was $2k in 1992 - that was a LOT of saving of busking money!)<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 15 February 2015 at 11:25, James Braunegg <<a href="mailto:james.braunegg@micron21.com" target="_blank">james.braunegg@micron21.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Talking of back in the days high school was so much fun when someone removed the BNC terminator and
nobody could work out why the network went down…. ;)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Damien Gardner Jnr<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 15, 2015 11:16 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mark Currie<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I was quite surprised, while tinkering in the garage yesterday, to find the AM7910PC FSK chip from my original hand-built 300-baud modem! (And the associated array of Z80's, 8255's,
Z8420's, Z8440's, etc). Still had the jumper soldered to the chip for Bell 103 originator loopback - last time I used it, the closest BBS was two calling zones away at STD rates ;) (Ahh, remember the $3 all night call cap back in the 90's? They were great!)<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 15 February 2015 at 10:47, Mark Currie <<a href="mailto:MCurrie@laserfast.com.au" target="_blank">MCurrie@laserfast.com.au</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I remember hooking up 10+ machines in the workshop on Netware 2 and running nsnipes
(the first realtime multiuser network game – Novell Snipes) to load test the equipment.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Actually some say Netware was created to run Snipes multiuser.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Mark Currie</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joshua D'Alton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 13 February 2015 8:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alan Maher<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] On Old Hands and Young Uns</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">How about ye olde Friday afternoon Quake session enabler, aka 10Base2, where particular coax cables would only work between specific identical NICs in identical
PCs, and where a t junction terminator would actually allow a segment only 1M long to work.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:26 PM, Alan Maher <<a href="mailto:alanmaher@gmail.com" target="_blank">alanmaher@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Commodore 64, Geoworks, 300 bps modem (homemade) & dialling into a bulletin<br>
board.................then thinking - is that all there is?<br>
After that we lived in a shoebox at the bottom of the garden and ate a lump of coal<br>
before walking 20 miles to school.<br>
Luxury !!!<br>
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:-D</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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On 13/02/2015 9:08 p.m., Julien Goodwin wrote:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">On 13/02/15 16:38, Ross Wheeler wrote:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">If you can't remember when the BGP table was less than 50K routes.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">I think you're in trouble if you say "that's me" to any of these!<br>
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If you don't know what SLIRP was.<br>
If you don't remember when you could fit netscape on a floppy.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-AU">I have an *official* copy of 1.X Netscape (I think 1.1 or 1.2) for Win<br>
3.X, and that's two floppies.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">If you don't remember webcrawler or Trumpet Winsock.<br>
If you don't know what Fidonet was<br>
If you have no idea what an AM7910 was or would be used for.<br>
If you never owned at least one of:<br>
* Microbee<br>
* Trash80<br>
* SCAMP</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">* PDP / VAX [1]<br>
* Commodore 64<br>
* Apple II</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">If you never heard of Netware, Banyan Vines or LANtastic</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-AU">or "Phone Net" AppleTalk (Anyone still have ethertalk routers running?)<br>
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And the "oh noes! Dual stack" people make you laugh because you remember<br>
running all the above in one network, at the same time.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">If you don't recognise a BNC-T and/or a BNC 50R terminator<br>
If you can't identify g=c800:5<br>
If you don't know what an NEC-V20 was</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">1: Nothing sucks like a VAX<br>
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