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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">AT&c1&d1&e0x3s0=1&w<br>
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And the correct term is Getty defs BTW.<br>
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Oh s* im old. <br>
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Matt.<br>
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On 13/02/2015 3:42 pm, Mark Dignam wrote:<br>
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Hand = can remember Dialup modem setup strings.. </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Really
Old Hand = can remember plugging said strings into Unix
getty configs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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lang="EN-US"> AusNOG
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel
Hood<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 13 February 2015 12:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jacob Gardiner<br>
<b>Cc:</b> AUSNOG<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] On Old Hands and Young Uns<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Seems like it. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>What age counts as a young un? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 13/02/2015 3:08 pm, "Jacob Gardiner"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Friday, Karl?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Jacob Gardiner<br>
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<p><span style="color:black">On 13 February 2015 at 2:43:15
pm, Karl Auer (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kauer@biplane.com.au" target="_blank">kauer@biplane.com.au</a>)
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<p class="MsoNormal">There's nothing new under the
sun, so no doubt this has been suggested <br>
before. <br>
<br>
It seems to me that AusNOG regularly has problems
with some "Young Un" <br>
not knowing "The Rules", with the inevitable result
that a goodly <br>
proportion of the "Old Hands" get their knickers in
a twist, the "young <br>
'uns" get frustrated, the quality of "genteel
intercourse" drops with an <br>
audible thud, and far too many passive-aggressive
"double quotes" get <br>
used. <br>
<br>
When someone new bombs into the hitherto placid pool
of AusNOG, the <br>
splash (and sometimes the scream) is usually pretty
audible. It's <br>
quickly obvious to all that there's a new face
around, a fresh face, one <br>
with its eyes on the prize, and not at all on the
Ways of AusNOG. <br>
<br>
My suggestion is this. If you are an Old Hand, and
you find your nether <br>
regions being cramped in unpleasant ways, and upon
inspection discover <br>
that you knickers are, in fact, twisted, why not
contact the offending <br>
Young Un off-list and offer your services as a
Mentor? You would be <br>
doing everyone a favour, including yourself. The
nasty, noisy <br>
pitter-patter of little feet would stop, the Young
Un concerned would <br>
get further, faster (and might avoid a few
embarrassing and costly <br>
mistakes), and AusNOG could remain the pristine
place of quiet worship <br>
it has always been. You as Mentor would have the
satisfaction of helping <br>
a lot of people and probably learning a thing or two
yourself. <br>
<br>
In due course said Young Un, now trained in the Way
of AusNOG, could <br>
take his or her place amongst the elite, accrete
suitable amounts of <br>
crustiness and possibly even (obviously many, many,
many years hence) <br>
mentor someone in turn, thus paying off their huge
karmic debt. <br>
<br>
Just a thought. <br>
<br>
Regards, K. <br>
<br>
PS: If I knew anything I'd mentor someone. <br>
<br>
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