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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Agreed, it’s a valid concern, those Pre-N devices were a mess.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>With that said though, a lot of stuff like this does become standards anyway, Cisco are pretty good about giving up their ideas to be standards, the other competing one is apparently a much smaller “alliance” so I’d say this one will win out.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I think BGP was a cisco developed idea that became a standard? There are heaps of others though I can’t recall any right now.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>At least this is developed by a group rather than just Cisco, so there is that, though as always, YMMV </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Ayden Beeson<i> </i></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> settra@gmail.com [mailto:settra@gmail.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Hohnke<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 11 February 2015 5:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> Beeson, Ayden<br><b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Nbase-t - Multi-gig eth ports<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I wonder if this will be like when 802.11n first came out. All of the "Pre-N" devices that came out that would only work with devices from the same manufacturer.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>This line worries me:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Q.Is Cisco multigigabit technology a standard yet?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>A.Cisco multigigabit technology is based on the NBase-T technology, and is not yet an industry standard. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>However, Cisco is collaborating with industry partners to work toward an industry standard<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Knowing cisco.. "We'll do it our way, your loss if you don't follow"<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Beeson, Ayden <<a href="mailto:ABeeson@csu.edu.au" target="_blank">ABeeson@csu.edu.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hey guys,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Apologies if this has already gone around, but I hadn’t seen it yet.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>For those that are interested, Cisco has launched its Nbase-T gear (multi-gig eth), including 4500-E gear, 3850’s, 3560cx’s and a 6500 line card.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>For those about to upgrade gear (as we are) it’s a good consideration with AC Wave 2 coming (ETA TBD though) and gear starting to demand more than a 1gb port can offer, plus you can use it over older cabling (assuming cabling quality is up to scratch etc.)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>All up, pretty interesting, even if it’s a stop gap measure in the long run.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Cisco’s FAQ on N-base:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/solutions/collateral/enterprise-networks/catalyst-multigigabit-switching/multigigabit-ethernet-technology.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/solutions/collateral/enterprise-networks/catalyst-multigigabit-switching/multigigabit-ethernet-technology.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>There is tonnes more info out there and I believe there is a competing product that does a similar thing.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Ayden Beeson<i> </i></span></b><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'>B.InfoTech, CCNA</span></i><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'><br></span><span style='color:#333333'>Technology Officer (Networks)<br>Division Of Information Technology</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#333333'>Charles Sturt University <br>P.O. 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