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</head><body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">That sounds like a bit of a
 dismissive reply-- especially given quite a few of his points are quite
 valid (IPv6 being one of them). Just because a single AWS instance is 
free, it doesn't make it better.. and if you can't stomach $5/m for a 
VM.. :)<br>
<br>
I'd also rather buy a small VM than accept a free one, especially for 
something that you'll depend on heavily when it's actually required.<br>
<br>
Daniel: Reading between the lines of your original post, I'm guessing 
you were crippled during the vocus blips yesterday. For $dayjob we 
leverage a few small VPS machines for our Secondary/Tertiary DNS 
servers, which I'd suggest you do, too.<br>
<br>
As long as your DNS stays up, you'll handle little blips much more 
gracefully. <br>
<br>
Skeeve Stevens wrote:
<blockquote 
cite="mid:CANs0DvuC_7FvS6=hfW9kgzjoaxvst0DDznvsQS5-uA__YXKcWg@mail.gmail.com"
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  <div dir="ltr">Good information though Alastair!</div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Alastair 
Waddell <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" 
href="mailto:awaddell@legion.com.au" target="_blank">awaddell@legion.com.au</a>></span>
 wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><p
 style="margin:1.2em 0px!important">On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 9:30 PM, 
Skeeve Stevens <<a moz-do-not-send="true" 
href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com</a>>
 wrote:</p>
<div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div
 dir="ltr">AWS? Don't get much cheaper.... actually you get a free micro
 VM for a year when you sign up.... just setup another account if you've
 already done it.</div></blockquote></div>
<p style="margin:1.2em 0px!important"><em>1 instance free for 12 months 
if you qualify (don’t have another instance including in another 
account)</em></p>
<p style="margin:1.2em 0px!important"><strong>DigitalOcean is less than a
 third the price of an AWS micro instance - it’s US5/mth</strong></p>
<p style="margin:1.2em 0px!important">And they’ll give you a bonus $5 or
 something for signing up which you can then make last practically for 
ever if you use it as expressed (as needed). Vagrant supports 
DigitalOcean as a provisioner.</p>
<p style="margin:1.2em 0px!important">And <strong>they support IPv6 all 
the way down</strong> (currently SNG and one of the US locations) - 
which none of AWS (except on ELB), Google (hypocrites!) etc do.</p>
<p style="margin:1.2em 0px!important">They have solid venture backing - 
they’re not going away.</p>
<p style="margin:1.2em 0px!important">AWS is expensive in relative terms
 (it’s the criticism that remains when all others have been squelched). 
What about your EBS storage charges etc.</p>
<p style="margin:1.2em 0px!important">DigitalOcean is a viable 
alternative where the additional AWS services aren’t needed or where 
people prefer to roll-their-own as many do on AWS anyway (HAProxy, RDBMS
 etc). Cloudflare offers a great service for free to replace Cloudfront 
and DigitalOcean has a private network albeit that it’s shared with all 
customers but then AWS best practice says to use TLS across your VPC 
anyway so…</p>
<p style="margin:1.2em 0px!important">I think DigitalOcean will be 
lapped up in places where people value every cent they spend and 
therefore, it will end up being a serious alternative to AWS (try 
telling a Chinese they should spend 200% more (and some!) because the 
private network is not shared or because the RDBMS can be 
‘as-a-service).</p>
<p style="margin:1.2em 0px!important">Apologies that this doesn’t 
actually have anything to do with Sydney-IX Megaport - we appear to have
 forked. </p>
<p style="margin:1.2em 0px!important">Regards,</p><p style="margin:1.2em
 0px!important">Alastair</p><p style="margin:1.2em 0px!important"><br></p>
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style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)"><br>--</p><p
 
style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Skeeve
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<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 9:18 PM,  <span
 dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" 
href="mailto:daniel@glovine.com.au" target="_blank">daniel@glovine.com.au</a>></span>
 wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px
 0px 0px 
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div
 link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-AU"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Dear 
List</p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">If anybody whom 
are on Sydney-IX Megaport whom are able to offer me a low spec Virtual 
server,  not on Vocus networks,  could you please contact me ASAP</p><p 
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