<div dir="ltr">Honestly... (and I expect a negative response to this)... I see FetchTV as dead...  Even more so than Foxtel - unless they do something quick.  They are about as relevant as Quickflix.<div><br></div><div>Nothing against them... but anyone not OTT'ing is dead in my prediction.... Foxtel has at least a massive (declining) customer base... FetchTV will need to innovate or die... and I don't see them having the funding unless they team up (Channel 10 is left? But do they have any $$).</div><div><br></div><div>If Presto continue to be only on Telstra bandwidth... I would expect ISPs to advertise against that... and potentially there could be market unfair advantage here by Telstra.</div><div><br></div><div>I understand and agree with what John Lindsay said... but Telstra's dominance will become an unfair advantage IMHO.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><font color="#002060" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="3"><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)"><br>...Skeeve</p><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)"><br>--</p><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Skeeve Stevens - <span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">The ISP Guy</span></p></font></font><font color="#002060" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="3"><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Email: <a href="mailto:skeeve@theispguy.com" target="_blank">skeeve@theispguy.com</a> ; <span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Twitter: </span><a href="https://twitter.com/TheISPGuy" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px" target="_blank">@TheISPGuy</a></p></font></font><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;color:rgb(32,73,125);font-family:Calibri">Blog: <a href="http://theispguy.com/" target="_blank">TheISPGuy.com</a> ; Facebook: </span><font color="#20497d" face="Calibri"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/theispguy" target="_blank">TheISPGuy</a></font><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><font color="#002060"><font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="3"><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Linkedin: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">/in/skeeve</a> ; <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Expert360: </span><a href="https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">Profile</a></p></font></font></div><div><blockquote type="cite" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Robert Hudson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hudrob@gmail.com" target="_blank">hudrob@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">FetchTV is picking up a whole range of different channels instead of the Discovery set.  Whether that's a good or a bad deal is another story - I note that iiNet/Internode have offered to let people out of contract without charge (the price also goes up as of February), so I suspect they feel a good number of customers may see it as a bad deal.<div><br></div><div>Yes, this means I have FetchTV - given the limitations of the box (1TB hard drive, and I've not found a way to successfully hack a larger drive in), I'm watching what's coming closely - FetchTV will have to evolve, or it will die...</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 16 January 2015 at 12:01, Nick Stallman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nick@agentpoint.com" target="_blank">nick@agentpoint.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    This is the major issue, and which is why Netflix will be so
    important to watch since they are the most neutral service.<br>
    It could just be that they get zero content from channel 7 and 9
    though.<br>
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    I noticed FetchTV was losing the Discovery set of channels as of Feb
    1.<br>
    Presto doesn't seem to have any Discovery content either.<br>
    Does anyone know what is going on there? Did one of these new
    players get exclusivity?<div><div><br>
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    <div>On 16/01/15 11:53, Robert Hudson wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I have to say, this doesn't excite me considerably.
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        <div>The reason - the programming (or lack thereof) - I found
          there were more things that I'd want to watch that aren't on
          this service than things that are on this service.  Maybe
          they'll add more stuff (and broaden what's available) over
          time - but I don't see that each channel selling online access
          to their own content on their own paid service being
          particularly valuable.  I'd much rather pay for a service that
          takes contents from multiple channels/networks and makes it
          all available to me in one place.</div>
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        <div>It's widely acknowledged by everyone BUT the content owners
          that the reason that people pirate their content is that they
          make it so damned difficult to access that it's easier to
          pirate it than jump through the hoops of acquiring it
          legally.  In my mind, at this stage, this service doesn't fix
          that unless all you're interested in is content that
          Fox/Channel 7 have rights to.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 15 January 2015 at 23:34, Skeeve
          Stevens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com</a>></span>
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            <div dir="ltr">Hi all,
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              <div>So, here we go... the first of the three are now
                online.</div>
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              <div>Foxtel & Channel 7's Presto has launched - <a href="https://www.presto.com.au/" target="_blank">https://www.presto.com.au/</a></div>
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              <div>News Release: <a href="http://www.news.com.au/technology/home-entertainment/presto-entertainment-launches-for-1499-a-month/story-fn8tnfhb-1227185706539" target="_blank">http://www.news.com.au/technology/home-entertainment/presto-entertainment-launches-for-1499-a-month/story-fn8tnfhb-1227185706539</a><br>
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              <div>TV only - $9.99</div>
              <div>Movies only - $9.99</div>
              <div>Both - $14.99</div>
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              <div>I've just signed up to give it a test.  I love one
                question on the signup "I don't want my information
                passed to our Foxtel Partners (Telstra and News Ltd)." -
                Love it - TICK!</div>
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              One note at the bottom of the news article was
              interesting: "The joint venture between Foxtel and Channel
              7 is still awaiting regulatory approval via the ACCC."
               Waiting approval but launched?
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