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    Hmmm, you should also follow this one:<br>
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    (d) Please don't post in HTML format - it tends to annoy people who<br>
    read with text mode clients.<br>
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    The most annoying bit of HTML messages is, if a message doesn't load
    on some crappy connection on the road, just because there's an image
    in the signature...<br>
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    Cheers,<br>
    <br>
    Mat<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 05.01.2015 um 12:59 schrieb Skeeve
      Stevens:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Done... oh Damnit!
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        <div>Like many others here on Gmail/Google Apps... it doesn't
          actually show me my signature before I send it.. So I didn't
          notice.  Then I thought how do I do a different one for a
          mailing list... and then realised I already do... so fixed :)</div>
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        <div>I think it's time to re-organise my email... hmmm.<br>
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                        ...Skeeve</div>
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                            <div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><b
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve Stevens - The ISP Guy</b></div>
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style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Email: <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:skeeve@theispguy.com"
                                  target="_blank">skeeve@theispguy.com</a> ; <span
                                  style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Twitter: </span><a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="https://twitter.com/TheISPGuy"
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                                  style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">@TheISPGuy</a></p>
                              <div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span
style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;color:rgb(32,73,125);font-family:Calibri">Blog: <a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="http://theispguy.com/"
                                    target="_blank">TheISPGuy.com</a> ;
                                  Facebook: </span><font color="#20497d"
                                  face="Calibri"><a
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                                    href="https://www.facebook.com/theispguy"
                                    target="_blank">TheISPGuy</a></font></div>
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                                style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px">LinkedIn: <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve"
                                  target="_blank">/in/skeeve</a> ; Expert360: <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9"
                                  target="_blank">Profile</a></p>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 6:55 PM,
              Brad Peczka <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:brad@bradpeczka.com" target="_blank">brad@bradpeczka.com</a>></span>
              wrote:<br>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">On
                a slightly related note, to quote from the charter:<br>
                <br>
                (b) Keep your signatures and disclaimers short. It's no
                fun seeing signatures that are longer than your posts;<br>
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                How about it, Skeeve? :-)<br>
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                Regards,<br>
                -Brad.<br>
                ________________________________________<br>
                From: AusNOG [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
                On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog@eintellegonetworks.com">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>]<br>
                Sent: Monday, 5 January 2015 7:56 AM<br>
                To: David Hughes<br>
                Cc: AusNOG Mailing List<br>
                Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AusNOG Mailing List 2015<br>
                <br>
                Hey,<br>
                <br>
                Let's make it your job... Charge a yearly fee for a
                premium list :)  i.e. an Ausnog Premium 'Member'<br>
                <br>
                That would get rid of a lot of the space wasters...<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                ...Skeeve<br>
                <br>
                Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Network Architect<br>
                eintellego Networks Pty Ltd<br>
                Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a><mailto:<a
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                ; Web: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">eintellegonetworks.com</a><<a
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                <br>
                Phone: 1300 239 038 ; Cell <a href="sip:+61414753383"
                  nr="+61414753383" class="telified" title="Als
                  Telefonnummer verwenden"
style="color:#00003f;background-color:#ffffbf;-moz-border-radius:3px;cursor:pointer">+61
                  (0)414 753 383</a> ; Skype: skeeve<br>
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                On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:31 AM, David Hughes <<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:david@hughes.com.au">david@hughes.com.au</a><mailto:<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:david@hughes.com.au">david@hughes.com.au</a>>>
                wrote:<br>
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                Good morning and welcome to a new work year.  I hope
                everyone managed some time off over the festive season.<br>
                <br>
                Over the last few months the quality of content on the
                AusNOG mailing list has dropped appreciably.  It appears
                that some members of our community misunderstand the
                purpose of the list and are using it in a number of ways
                that are in breach of the list charter.  That cannot
                continue.<br>
                <br>
                To help clarify the purpose of the list we have updated
                the list charter.  I'd ask that you all read the charter
                at the link below so that everyone clearly understands
                the purpose of this list.<br>
                <br>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.ausnog.net/mailing_list/charter"
                  target="_blank">http://www.ausnog.net/mailing_list/charter</a><br>
                <br>
                In particular, and I'll paraphrase from the charter,
                this list IS NOT to be used for :<br>
                <br>
                * level 1 vendor specific tech support.  If there is a
                vendor / product specific list or forum please use that.<br>
                <br>
                * name calling and other unprofessional behaviour<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                With regard to specific threads that occurred over the
                Christmas break, I'm at a loss.  The conduct of some
                members hit a new low and that sort of behaviour cannot
                continue.  As such some individuals have been warned
                about their conduct and others are now being moderated. 
                 Please be warned now that from here on we will swiftly
                moderate members that ignore the charter.  We will
                continue to moderate list members until the quality of
                postings increases to an acceptable level.<br>
                <br>
                In response to being moderated, one list member
                responded with an email along the lines of  "If you
                people were doing your job ....".  Can I just remind
                everyone that we are a group of individuals who
                volunteer a few man-weeks per year of work towards
                running the AusNOG Conference.  We also facilitate this
                mailing list.  It is hardly "our job" to force the
                "professionals" in our industry to act professionally. 
                We'll leave that to each of you.<br>
                <br>
                Thanks for your time and I look forward to your
                cooperation and assistance in getting this mailing list
                back on track.<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                <br>
                Thanks<br>
                <br>
                David - on behalf of the AusNOG Board<br>
                ...<br>
                <br>
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