<html><head><style>body{font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px}</style></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">That would only make people feel entitled to share their unprofessional opinions, because they’ve paid to join the VIP club. When charging for a service, with it come certain levels of expectation that need to then be met by the AusNOG staff, which would still be volunteering most of their efforts. </div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">Tightening up the charter was the right approach, and moderating the keyboard warriors helps enforce the message. I just hope the banstick comes out if needed. </div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">Onwards & Upwards.</div> <br> <div id="bloop_sign_1420423034598795008" class="bloop_sign"><div style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:13px">-- <br>Jacob Gardiner<br><a href="https://twitter.com/jacobgardiner">@jacobgardiner</a></div></div> <br><p style="color:#000;">On 5 January 2015 at 10:57:01 am, Skeeve Stevens (<a href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>) wrote:</p> <blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq"><span><div><div></div><div>
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<div>Let's make it your job... Charge a yearly fee for a premium
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<div>That would get rid of a lot of the space
wasters... </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:31 AM, David
Hughes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david@hughes.com.au" target="_blank">david@hughes.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Good morning and welcome to a new work year. I hope everyone
managed some time off over the festive season.<br>
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Over the last few months the quality of content on the AusNOG
mailing list has dropped appreciably. It appears that some
members of our community misunderstand the purpose of the list and
are using it in a number of ways that are in breach of the list
charter. That cannot continue.<br>
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To help clarify the purpose of the list we have updated the list
charter. I'd ask that you all read the charter at the link
below so that everyone clearly understands the purpose of this
list.<br>
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<a href="http://www.ausnog.net/mailing_list/charter" target="_blank">http://www.ausnog.net/mailing_list/charter</a><br>
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In particular, and I'll paraphrase from the charter, this list IS
NOT to be used for :<br>
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* level 1 vendor specific tech support. If there is a vendor
/ product specific list or forum please use that.<br>
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* name calling and other unprofessional behaviour<br>
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With regard to specific threads that occurred over the Christmas
break, I'm at a loss. The conduct of some members hit a new
low and that sort of behaviour cannot continue. As such some
individuals have been warned about their conduct and others are now
being moderated. Please be warned now that from here on
we will swiftly moderate members that ignore the charter. We
will continue to moderate list members until the quality of
postings increases to an acceptable level.<br>
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In response to being moderated, one list member responded with an
email along the lines of "If you people were doing your job
....". Can I just remind everyone that we are a group of
individuals who volunteer a few man-weeks per year of work towards
running the AusNOG Conference. We also facilitate this
mailing list. It is hardly "our job" to force the
"professionals" in our industry to act professionally. We'll
leave that to each of you.<br>
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Thanks for your time and I look forward to your cooperation and
assistance in getting this mailing list back on track.<br>
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Thanks<br>
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David - on behalf of the AusNOG Board<br>
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