<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">+1 Completely agree. It is so easy to fall into the pattern where to expect to find a decent job at the completion of an IT degree.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Unfortunately that isn't how it works in the real world. I know when I did Computer Science all those years ago, I also ran my own business doing SMB networks that gave me a leg up after I finished the degree. That leg up was level 1 helpdesk and from there I worked my way up.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">There are always opportunities to find work or gain experience. For example:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">1. Internships. UNSW used to invite(?) global IT companies in that would sprunk (for lack of a better phrase) their companies. Often they would be on the hunt for up-and-coming people who are still studying. These seminars used to be conducted after lectures and were usually accompanied with pizza and a good chance to chat. I'd highly recommend trying to attend them.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">2. Join an open-source project, open a git-hub account or similar and try to solve a problem that is relevant to where you want to be.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">3. Additional to Uni, grab a subscription to CBT Nuggets and/or Safari online books. Try to learn something outside of the 'fixed' learning environment.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">4. Build a home lab. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">5. If you're in a capital city, join a user group.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">6. start a blog. write about your learning, study or various problems you ran into.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">7. study and grab an industry exam, ie CCNA </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">In saying all that, Comp Science gave me a great platform for coding in the 'new' devops world. 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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Julian De Marchi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:julian@jdcomputers.com.au" target="_blank">julian@jdcomputers.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On 12/22/14 13:19, Cameron Worts wrote:<br>
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What’s the point of going out and getting an expensive degree when most employers want employees with these requirements?<br>
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This. The same problem occurred to me while I was studying. The only solution was to start at the very bottom and work my way up. Which IMHO was a very good approach in the end.<br>
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I worked my way up from Level 1 support to where I am now, systems/network monkey.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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--julian</font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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