<html><head><style>body{font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px}</style></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">Although the VyOS posts are getting a bit repetitive, I think there’s some value for people who run into a technical issue and come to the group for input, after all there’s a huge amount of experience from the operators on this list and I’d assume the vast majority of people on this list are hands-on. </div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">Maybe it should be considered that a second list is setup for technical questions, and leave this main list as is. If the user decides to post to ausnog for technical support rather than going to a specific product forum (where you’d assume there would be more value), then they can. </div> <br> <div id="bloop_sign_1418338787022927872" class="bloop_sign"><div style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:13px">-- <br>Jacob Gardiner<br><a href="https://twitter.com/jacobgardiner">@jacobgardiner</a></div></div> <br><p style="color:#000;">On 12 December 2014 at 9:56:35 am, Sam Silvester (<a href="mailto:sam.silvester@gmail.com">sam.silvester@gmail.com</a>) wrote:</p> <blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq"><span><div><div></div><div>
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<div dir="ltr">I agree with both Brad's suggested wording, and his
view regarding interpretation.<br>
<br>
Yes, this place should be welcoming to those from all size networks
- we don't need a silly "must have an AS" rule or the like (NANOG
doesn't).<br>
<br>
But equally I'd like to see it discouraged for posting here when
there are more targeted forums for specific vendors (VyOS forums
for example for basic VyOS questions).</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Brad
Gould <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bradley@internode.com.au" target="_blank">bradley@internode.com.au</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">My
impression is that most of the drama inducing posts are asking
[Vendor*Associate] level questions.<br>
<br>
"This is NOT a forum for journalists to pick up leads, sales people
to<br>
sell things, end-users to pester their ISP, or bush lawyers to
posit<br>
their beliefs"<br>
<br>
"This is NOT a forum for journalists to pick up leads, sales people
to<br>
sell things, end-users to pester their ISP or get basic technical
support,<br>
or bush lawyers to posit their beliefs".<br>
<br>
That would be my recommendation.<br>
<br>
I think the first paragraph on the charter covers this, but
"creative reading" of that paragraph enables people to think there
is wiggle room.<br>
<br>
I also think that, irrespective of a charter change, the moderators
_need_ to make a clear statement regarding their interpretation of
the charter. This will either stop people from making
inappropriate posts, or stop people replying that the post is
inappropriate.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Brad<br></font></span><span class="im HOEnZb"><br>
<br>
<br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
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On Behalf Of PRK<br>
> Sent: Thursday, 11 December 2014 20:06<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
> Subject: [AusNOG] Charter Change ?<br>
><br></span>
<div class="HOEnZb">
<div class="h5">> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> Out of curiosity, if anyone feels there is too much traffic
that may currently<br>
> within the charter of the group, but you think shouldn't be,
how would you<br>
> change the charter?<br>
><br>
> Current charter: <a href="http://www.ausnog.net/mailing_list/charter" target="_blank">http://www.ausnog.net/mailing_list/charter</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> prk.<br>
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