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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I'd just go a stack of these<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/sandisk-32gb-ultra-usb-3-0-flash-drive-sdcz4832gb">http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/sandisk-32gb-ultra-usb-3-0-flash-drive-sdcz4832gb</a><br>
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      Write the data, then read it back out and verify.<br>
      Heck run em in pairs (2 copies).<br>
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      Replace them every 6 months.<br>
      I'm guessing you aren't after historical data changes?<br>
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      I have one client that is snarky about that kind of thing, so I
      run a ZFS fileserver snapshotting hourly. Then I replicate all
      that to a backup file server, the backup server can only talk to
      the main file server not the wider network.<br>
      Backup server then has its snapshots replicated onto encrypted 2Tb
      removable disks that the receptionist swaps out on a daily basis
      and ensures one is always offsite.<br>
      <br>
      So they have a max data loss of 2 days, and they have hourly
      snapshots going back a few years.<br>
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      Its weak to a rouge system administrator who has 3 days worth of
      planning time.<br>
      If they took archival disks that'd go away but that was too much
      $$$.<br>
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      On 26/11/14 15:10, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker wrote:<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">My
            current investigation is small amount of data ~ 10-20G of
            core data.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We
            are happy with our current backup regime but we don’t
            account for malicious loss of data. IE all the backups are
            available on the network somebody can delete everything
            online.  Offsite gives you protection from that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Currently
            the old tape backup unit isn’t functioning, we are looking
            at around ~10-15K for a server / storage / drive / tapes.  I
            could also but some external HD’s, write to them over nite
            and then ship them off during the day. With the cost of SSD
            and their size coming down that’s even more attractive.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">What
            I would really like is some virtual tape library available
            over Mega Port, where somebody else looks after tape
            management or virtual tapes, as long as I need some process
            which includes authorisation to bring the tapes back on
            line.  But at the right price
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            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Alex<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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                  lang="EN-US"> Peter Tiggerdine
                  [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ptiggerdine@gmail.com">mailto:ptiggerdine@gmail.com</a>]
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                  <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 26 November 2014 2:57 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Alex Samad - Yieldbroker<br>
                  <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Offsite Storage<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Pundits have being declaring this for
              20 years and it still hasn't happened.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Tape has it's place as does D2D
                backup.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">The answer to your question is "it
                depends" on "<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Organisation size and maturity.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">DR Plan<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Backup/Recovery Plan<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Budget<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Alex
                Samad - Yieldbroker <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com"
                  target="_blank">Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com</a>>
                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Hi<br>
                <br>
                Wondering what people are doing for offsite store /
                backups. Looking at <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://it.slashdot.org/story/14/11/26/0044239/is-lto-tape-on-its-way-out"
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http://it.slashdot.org/story/14/11/26/0044239/is-lto-tape-on-its-way-out</a>
                LTO tapes sales are down.  People are backing up to
                disk.<br>
                <br>
                But what are people doing for offsite.  Removable HDs ?<br>
                <br>
                Alex<br>
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