<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Correct. They shouldn't be in any trusted bundles because <a href="http://cacert.org">cacert.org</a> does absolutely nothing to validate anything more than the ability to read an email.<br><br>StartCom, as weird as they are an as irritating as their interface is, at least do go to reasonable lengths to validate personal and business identity. <br><br>Though they may also try to get you to jump through oddly shaped hoops where you will enjoy lovely conversations that basically flow like below, if memory serves correctly,<br><br></div><div>Me: "Hello this is Colin speaking."<br></div><div>StartCom: "Hi, are you $FULL_NAME born on $DOB"<br></div><div>Me: "It would appear so, given you called me after I gave you this number via email a few minutes ago."<br>StartCom: "Do you have a direct land line number we can call you on?"<br>Me: "No."<br><div>StartCom: "Why don't you not have a direct land line number we can call?"<br></div>Me: "2014"<br>StartCom: "Can you fax us your documents?"<br>Me: "No"<br></div><div>StartCom: "Why can't you fax us something?"<br>Me: "2014"<br>StartCom: "Do you have a fax number we can send a fax to?"<br></div><div>Me: "No"<br>StartCom: "Why don't you have a fax number we can send you something to?"<br>Me: "2014"<br><br><br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On 19 November 2014 11:41, Ben Cooper <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ben@zeno.io" target="_blank">ben@zeno.io</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">They got taken out of the majors a few years back due to their auditing failing to pass the test.<div><br></div><div>If memory serves.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Peter Tiggerdine <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ptiggerdine@gmail.com" target="_blank">ptiggerdine@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://cacert.org" target="_blank">cacert.org</a> as well which seems more transparent about the processes and policy that govern their setup. Not use if their root ca cert appears in all the browsers/Operating Systems which is always the hard part.</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Jeremy Visser <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeremy@visser.name" target="_blank">jeremy@visser.name</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span>On 19/11/14 10:34, Ernie wrote:<br>
> It's going to be a non-profit organization that issues free<br>
> certificates for any website.<br>
><br>
</span><span>> My question is, will this screw up companies like Verisign/Thawte<br>
> sales?<br>
<br>
</span>Given that StartSSL have been around for years, and do exactly that: no.<br>
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