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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 18 November 2014 11:44, Noel Butler <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:noel.butler@ausics.net" target="_blank">noel.butler@ausics.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<p>If he pays his bills with them, why shouldn't they provide a service, thats just like not paying a bill because of a dispute with optus, and expecting telstra to terminate you as well, sheesh.... go grap a cup of reality with a dash of common sense.</p>
<p>if he's done wrong, and lets face it, we only hearing two of the three sides here, maybe he has a valid gripe, maybe not, that's what courts are for, and I mean real courts, not the kangaroos here.</p>
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<p>I suggest this thread gets a STOP from moderators, given there are legal wheels in motion, and before casting rocks, wait for the judicial outcome.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">VIBE is providing safe haven, if you had any respect for Australian businesses and Australian suppliers you would put respect before making a sale, but you're from NZ so what do you care about local Australians other than making a sale.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Either way VIBE and everyone else are harboring this action and providing safe haven for Rack Central.</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Barry Murphy <span><<a href="mailto:barry@vibecommunications.co.nz" target="_blank">barry@vibecommunications.co.nz</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>We (AS45177) are not providing any 'safe haven' to anyone, we are simply providing a transit service to a paying customer and have done so for a couple of months. </div>
<div>The legal dispute does not involve us, it is a matter between the parties concerned, the courts will decide who is in the right and who is in the wrong, we are no judge or jury.</div>
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<div><br> Many Thanks</div>
<div>Barry Murphy</div>
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