<div dir="ltr">My view on SDN is... <div><br></div><div>- In the enterprise space - Like BluRay, it will win the battle and lose the war. Enterprise networking for the most part will move more and more to the cloud where the foundation is already sitting on top of SDN and that will be for your cloud providers and Virtual X-Connect Fabrics to worry about. </div><div><br></div><div>There will be products, but little use for SDN in the Enterprise unless someone productises something of enough interest (unlikely) ... and at the moment, there isn't too much. Kind of like the IPv6 argument. Right now there is no killer-app that most enterprises MUST have to go SDN in-house. The skills are also rare for the most part, so enterprises aren't going to take a risk on technology where they can't get the necessary skills to run it - for whatever reasons they might use SDN.</div><div><br></div><div>- In the carrier space - It is already making a massive difference to some carriers offerings and will be the foundation of all carrier and service provider networks in the next few years. SDN will make hardware vendors irrelevant in the next couple of years as Whitebox switching takes off and network equipment takes the path of Servers - tin with little to no value-add. Soon it won't matter what kit you use - it will just be ports and wires, all centrally controlled.</div><div><br></div><div>If you are a classic Network Engineer with no *nux or programming skills and you aren't planning on learning these things soon, then prepare for a new career in the next couple of years as no one will want you, or your value will worth far far less.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><br>...Skeeve</div><div><br></div><div><div><b style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve Stevens - </b><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span></div><div><div><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a> ; <a href="http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/" target="_blank">www.eintellegonetworks.com</a></span><font><p style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px">Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; <a>skype://skeeve</a></p><p style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px"><a href="http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks" target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellegonetworks</a> ; <a href="http://twitter.com/networkceoau" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a> </p><p style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px"><a href="http://twitter.com/theispguy" target="_blank">twitter.com/theispguy</a><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"> ; blog: </span><a href="http://www.theispguy.com/" target="_blank">www.theispguy.com</a><br></p><p style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px"><img src="http://eintellegonetworks.com/logos/ein09.png"><br></p><p style="margin:0px"><span style="color:rgb(127,0,127);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:13px">The Experts Who The Experts Call</span></p></font></div><div style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(127,0,127)"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">Juniper - Cisco </span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">- Cloud</span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px"> </span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">- Consulting</span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px"> </span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">- IPv4 Brokering</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 18 November 2014 11:40, Brad McGinn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bmcginn@thiess.com.au" target="_blank">bmcginn@thiess.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi All,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I thought I’d send this to the AusNOG list to see people’s opinions and/or experience in the matter of SDN; in carrier land and even in enterprise land.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I assume cloud providers would be a big advocate for SDN and ‘Networks with APIs’ but I’d really like to get an idea of how much take up at present is in the industry. Does SDN have a home in carrier networks? Is it already there? Does
it work as expected? Was it hard to setup? Did google really get it right with openflow?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My limited knowledge in the area leads me to believe that SDN will be a big help in automated network management with integration into things like VMWare and so on, but that to me sort of assumes Data Centre networks will be the focus.
Am I reading things wrong here or will all network devices (smart or dumb) eventually be expected to take part in SDN if required; in not just DC but any kind of network; be that a network of anything, or specific networks like carriers and so on? With big
hardware vendors like cisco and Juniper facing a thing that may demote their ‘smart hardware devices’ into forwarding engines, do you think there’ll be a change in their mantra of ‘sell sell sell hardware’ or will they keep pushing that? Will they run both
races for a while or do you think they’ll change focus completely?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Forgive my ignorance, I’m just trying to get a handle on what the industry professionals (rather than vendors) are seeing and what they’re doing with SDN, if anything at all? I know there are many people on this list with great knowledge
and exposure to cutting edge stuff in bother carrier, cloud and enterprise networks and I’m hoping to tap that knowledge for a brief time.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Any comments welcome.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks all.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Brad<u></u><u></u></p>
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