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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Is it in this response right now?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>D.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Jake Anderson [mailto:yahoo@vapourforge.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 17 November 2014 12:57 PM<br><b>To:</b> Daniel; 'Noel Butler'; ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Weekend Route Leaking - 203.27.101.0/24<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><pre>Thunderbird : To protect your privacy, Thunderbird has blocked remote content in this message.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Ctrl + U view source (And some trim)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Received: from server.glovine.com.au (unknown [103.18.205.9])<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> by lists.ausnog.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72C0822D89<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> for <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"><ausnog@lists.ausnog.net></a>; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 00:00:23 +1100 (EST)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Subject: [AusNOG] Weekend Route Leaking - 203.27.101.0/24<o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><pre>Gday Guys<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>It seems (Atleast to my eyes) that TPG are leaking the routes for<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>203.27.101.0/24 overseas?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Can anybody else on-list confirm this before I contact them direct?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>An IP you can traceroute is 203.27.101.1<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>TIA<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Daniel<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://t.signauxtrois.com/e1t/o/5/f18dQhb0S7ks8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9gXrN7sKj6v4dY_WW8p_btW8qC9y4W8qCnPv1pctGFVX0kJF1k1H6H0?si=4827875764076544&pi=1fd04645e7684d54b6d28eae93aa4769"><http://t.signauxtrois.com/e1t/o/5/f18dQhb0S7ks8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9gXrN7sKj6v4dY<o:p></o:p></a></pre><pre><span class=MsoHyperlink><a href="http://t.signauxtrois.com/e1t/o/5/f18dQhb0S7ks8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9gXrN7sKj6v4dY_WW8p_btW8qC9y4W8qCnPv1pctGFVX0kJF1k1H6H0?si=4827875764076544&pi=1fd04645e7684d54b6d28eae93aa4769">_WW8p_btW8qC9y4W8qCnPv1pctGFVX0kJF1k1H6H0?si=4827875764076544&pi=1fd04645e76<o:p></o:p></a></span></pre><pre><span class=MsoHyperlink><a href="http://t.signauxtrois.com/e1t/o/5/f18dQhb0S7ks8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9gXrN7sKj6v4dY_WW8p_btW8qC9y4W8qCnPv1pctGFVX0kJF1k1H6H0?si=4827875764076544&pi=1fd04645e7684d54b6d28eae93aa4769">84d54b6d28eae93aa4769></a></span> <o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>See that bit at the end there.<br>It 302 redirects to <a href="http://api.getsidekick.com/e1t/o/5/f18dQhb0S7ks8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9gXrN7sKj6v4dY_WW8p_btW8qC9y4W8qCnPv1pctGFVX0kJF1k1H6H0?si=4827875764076544&pi=1fd04645e7684d54b6d28eae93aa4769">http://api.getsidekick.com/e1t/o/5/f18dQhb0S7ks8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9gXrN7sKj6v4dY_WW8p_btW8qC9y4W8qCnPv1pctGFVX0kJF1k1H6H0?si=4827875764076544&pi=1fd04645e7684d54b6d28eae93aa4769</a><br>which includes some kind of cookie as well.<br><br>That was on both of your earlier emails.<br>both <a href="mailto:daniel@dwatson.me">daniel@dwatson.me</a> and <a href="mailto:daniel@glovine.com.au">daniel@glovine.com.au</a><br><br>you can see it in the list archives at <a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/pipermail/ausnog/2014-November/028115.html">http://lists.ausnog.net/pipermail/ausnog/2014-November/028115.html</a><br><br>So whilst it may not be on the email you just sent, it was on the ones that started this thread.<br><br>I understand that this kind of tracking stuff has a habit of clawing its way into everything as soon as you open the door to it at all, but you are dealing with a group of people who are very sensitive to this kind of thing. <br>Getting defensive like that isn't going to do anything other than prompt them and everybody else to think less of you. <br><br>There are really only two options to resolve this well, and both of them involve owning what you are doing/have done.<br>Either including the tracking thing is something you do on purpose and you should say words to that effect (a tough position to defend, particularly in this environment), or admit it was sent in error and you haven't gotten your crap sorted out yet, and thank them for pointing out that you missed something.<br><br>Its very hard for people to be angry with you if you are thanking them (and then acting on their suggestions).<br><br><br><br>On 17/11/14 12:34, Daniel wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>You are just against me in everything, that’s why your with him on this,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Ill say it once, and last and final time, IT IS NOT ENABLED ON OUTGOING EMAILS</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>D.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Noel Butler<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 17 November 2014 12:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Weekend Route Leaking - 203.27.101.0/24</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Was enabled on Nov 15 post, the first post in this thread. Since it was sent to the list, I think it's a list matter.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Julian and I don't often see eye to eye, but I'm with him on this one.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>On 17/11/2014 09:10, Daniel wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>Julian<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>It's not enabled, so it's certainly not from me sending it out again....<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>If you have an issue email me directly and not through the list.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>D.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>From: AusNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of Julian De<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Marchi<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Sent: Monday, 17 November 2014 10:00 AM<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>To: <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Weekend Route Leaking - 203.27.101.0/24<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>You're tracking emails again mate... Didn't you learn the first time? <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>This practice has to STOP.<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>AusNOG mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>