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font-size: 12px;" class=""> <div dir="ltr" class="" style=""> <hr size="1" class="" style=""> <font size="2" face="Arial" class="" style=""> <b class="" style=""><span style="font-weight:bold;" class="">From:</span></b> Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc@mmc.com.au><br class="" style=""> <b class="" style=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">To:</span></b> "AusNOG (AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net)" <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net> <br class="" style=""> <b class="" style=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Sent:</span></b> Monday, 10 November 2014, 16:40<br class="" style=""> <b class="" style=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Subject:</span></b> [AusNOG] [STOP THREAD] Re: [**SPAM**] RE: RE: TPG Routing Issues?<br class="" style=""> </font> </div> <div class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><div id="yiv2845812642" class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><div class="" style="">Please, Stop.</div><div class="" style=""><br
clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">No more.</div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">MMC</div><div class="" style="">(on behalf of the organisers).</div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><br clear="none" class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><blockquote class="" type="cite" style=""><div class="" style="">On 9 Nov 2014, at 9:34 pm, Noel Butler <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="" ymailto="mailto:noel.butler@ausics.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:noel.butler@ausics.net" style="">noel.butler@ausics.net</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none" class="" style=""><div class="" style="">
<div class="" style="font-size:10pt;"><div class="" style="">Firstly kid, telling me to piss off is the worst thing you could do, because I will do the exact opposite, secondly you came in with a dumb arse blind statement claiming</div><div class="" style="">"TPG generally do not pass any communication back down the dsl line from their LNS"</div><div class="" style="">which is absolute BS.</div><div class="" style="">which BTW is also pretty funny, how the hell do you think you get your net traffic LOL</div><div class="" style=""> <br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">On 10/11/2014 15:23, <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="" ymailto="mailto:daniel@glovine.com.au" target="_blank" href="mailto:daniel@glovine.com.au" style="">daniel@glovine.com.au</a> wrote:</div>
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<div class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;">LOL get your facts right, I didn’t ask anything buddy, now piss off and end this thread like the ORGINAL op mentioned YESTERDAY</span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;"> </span></div>
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<div class="" style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><div class="" style=""><b class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';">From:</span></b><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';"> AusNOG [<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="" ymailto="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" style="">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b class="" style="">On Behalf Of </b>Noel Butler<br clear="none" class="" style=""><b class="" style="">Sent:</b> Monday, 10 November 2014 4:18 PM<br clear="none" class="" style=""><b class="" style="">To:</b> Daniel<br clear="none" class="" style=""><b class="" style="">Cc:</b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="" ymailto="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"
style="">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br clear="none" class="" style=""><b class="" style="">Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] [**SPAM**] RE: RE: TPG Routing Issues?</span></div>
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</div><div class="" style=""> </div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:10.0pt;">perhaps I don't care to header-read because the care factor is too low, and if you were with TPG for that long, you would know there is no filtering, so why are you asking here, perhaps you mistook AusNog for whingepool?</span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:10.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:10.0pt;">On 09/11/2014 13:16, Daniel wrote:</span></div>
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<div class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;">Shows how much you don’t know… considering ive been with TPG for 6 years now…</span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;"> </span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;">If you even bothered to look up on my previous threads on ausnog you would realise this…</span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;"> </span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;">But to prove that fact, hows about a traceroute to google for you</span></div><div class="" style=""><span class=""
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;"> </span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;">C:\Users\danie_000>tracert <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="" target="_blank" href="http://google.com.au/" style="">google.com.au</a></span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;"> </span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;">Tracing route to <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="" target="_blank" href="http://google.com.au/" style="">google.com.au</a> [74.125.237.143]</span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;">over a maximum of 30 hops:</span></div><div class="" style=""><span class=""
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;"> </span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;"> 1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1</span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;"> 2 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms 10.20.20.196</span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;"> 3 37 ms 34 ms 34 ms <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="" target="_blank" href="http://syd-sot-ken-dom2-be-20.tpgi.com.au/" style="">syd-sot-ken-dom2-be-20.tpgi.com.au</a> [203.219.35.70]</span></div><div class=""
style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;"> 4 34 ms 33 ms 36 ms <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="" target="_blank" href="http://203-219-107-6.static.tpgi.com.au/" style="">203-219-107-6.static.tpgi.com.au</a> [203.219.107.6]</span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;"> 5 35 ms 34 ms 34 ms 66.249.95.226</span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;"> 6 35 ms 36 ms 36 ms 72.14.237.137</span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;"> 7 35
ms 34 ms 40 ms <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="" target="_blank" href="http://syd01s13-in-f15.1e100.net/" style="">syd01s13-in-f15.1e100.net</a> [74.125.237.143]</span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;"> </span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;"> </span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;">Looks to me like im on a TPG DSL connection… how about you?</span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;"> </span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;">Anyways enough about me… my point is
proven now, but yes they must of lied to me, and you cant tell because you didn’t listen to the call..</span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;"> </span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;">D.</span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;"> </span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;"> </span></div>
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<div class="" style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><div class="" style=""><b class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';">From:</span></b><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';"> AusNOG [<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="" ymailto="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" style="">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';">On Behalf Of </span></b>Noel Butler<br clear="none" class="" style=""><b class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 9 November 2014 2:11 PM<br clear="none" class="" style=""><b class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';">To:</span></b> Daniel<br clear="none" class=""
style=""><b class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';">Cc:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="" ymailto="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" style="">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br clear="none" class="" style=""><b class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';">Subject:</span></b> Re: [AusNOG] [**SPAM**] RE: RE: TPG Routing Issues?</span></div>
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</div><div class="" style=""> </div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:10.0pt;">I'm not sure on FTTB, but with xDSL, no service is filtered, that is fact.</span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:10.0pt;">and you are not a customer of TPG (if you were you wouldn't need to ask that), so how can they lie to you if you called them about a service you don't have with them :)</span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-size:9.0pt;">On 09/11/2014 12:36, Daniel wrote:</span><span class="" style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></div>
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