<div dir="ltr">Because we're all super busy trying to survive and the smaller guys don't have the time or money to throw at it.<div><br></div><div>What we need is a industry body who actually concentrates on this sort of thing and represents the service providers - big and small... </div><div><br></div><div>But we have no one who does this decently. If that comment offends any group/body - Good... you need to do better and involve us more.... and stop just listening to the Telstra and Optus's.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><br>...Skeeve</div><div><br></div><div><div><b style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve Stevens - </b><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span></div><div><div><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a> ; <a href="http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/" target="_blank">www.eintellegonetworks.com</a></span><font><p style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px">Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; <a>skype://skeeve</a></p><p style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px"><a href="http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks" target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellegonetworks</a> ; <a href="http://twitter.com/networkceoau" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a> </p><p style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px"><a href="http://twitter.com/theispguy" target="_blank">twitter.com/theispguy</a><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"> ; blog: </span><a href="http://www.theispguy.com/" target="_blank">www.theispguy.com</a><br></p><p style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px"><img src="http://eintellegonetworks.com/logos/ein09.png"><br></p><p style="margin:0px"><span style="color:rgb(127,0,127);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:13px">The Experts Who The Experts Call</span></p></font></div><div style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(127,0,127)"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">Juniper - Cisco </span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">- Cloud</span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px"> </span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">- Consulting</span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px"> </span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">- IPv4 Brokering</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 10 November 2014 18:47, Geordie Guy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:elomis@gmail.com" target="_blank">elomis@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><p dir="ltr">Some days I wonder why it's so hard to motivate AusNOG as the network operators of Australia to take action or at least canvas in a professional forum some of the legislative and regulatory changes that face the operations of networks in Australia. We've had years after years of bad regulation attempts from both sides of parliament which make the redefine the roles and rules in the industry and co-opt the operators of modern technology into being the government's enforcement arm in society and the economy for problems that people who don't understand networks at all - much less to the extent we do - think should be our role.</p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr">Other days I read that someone thinks there's actually a legislative instrument called "the Cyber Crimes Act"</p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr">Then I drink.</p><p dir="ltr"><br></p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 09/11/2014 2:22 PM, "ANSA SERVERS" <<a href="mailto:info@ausnetservers.net.au" target="_blank">info@ausnetservers.net.au</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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my websites live chat or prank calls my support numbers winging about my stance with this thread will be reported to the police for harassment, bullying and trolling under the Cyber Crimes Act<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">If you want to bully me and harass me, you have my email address don’t go trying to effect my businesses with your childish behaviour.
All calls and trans scripts are recorded. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Noel Butler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 9 November 2014 2:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] TPG NOC CONTACT<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">I have feelings, and plenty of empathy, but that doesn't distract from the points being made.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">I also don't think you have much of a right to talk about feelings, how about the feelings of all those kids out there looking for work in this industry, trying to get a foot in, unable to do so because the jobs they could
do are outsourced to cheap labour countries.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">So yeah, I guess that works both ways.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Cheers<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">On 09/11/2014 09:58, Jared Hirst wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Yes that was my point, and also that ausnog is not a place for single user support. Seems another ticket but the same operator has been opened for a TPG 'issue' and hasn't even contacted front line support yet :( <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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