<p dir="ltr">I would hope someone involved realises that identifying with a MAC address is worse than useless.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 30 Oct 2014 12:42, "Sam Silvester" <<a href="mailto:sam.silvester@gmail.com">sam.silvester@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">David, that isn't very comforting.<br><br>As it's defined by regulation, it's subject to change without further legislative oversight.<br><br>Also, I'm willing to bet it'll also include (for mobile providers) stuff like GPS location etc. It'll gradually scope creep out, just you watch.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:32 AM, David Beveridge <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dave@bevhost.com" target="_blank">dave@bevhost.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I was listening to the parliament broadcast on the radio this morning and (boring I know)<div>but I definitely heard Malcolm say that we not be required to record the destination IP addresses that customers visit, only the source IP address mapping.</div><div>That is, we should be able to supply the account name of the customer who had the IP address at a given date and time.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm not really sure where this leaves freewifi providers which have a multitude of unknown users behind a single IP.</div><div><br></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Ben Cooper <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ben@zeno.io" target="_blank">ben@zeno.io</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Last I checked (90 minutes ago). They still have not set what data they want kept.<div><br></div><div>Reference: <a href="http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Fems%2Fr5375_ems_e6cf11b4-5a4e-41bc-ae27-031e2b90e001%22" target="_blank">http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Fems%2Fr5375_ems_e6cf11b4-5a4e-41bc-ae27-031e2b90e001%22</a></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:54 AM, David Beveridge <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dave@bevhost.com" target="_blank">dave@bevhost.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I don't know why you're so upset about this. <div>They're only asking you to keep radius and smtp logs.</div><div>It's not like you're being asked to keep two years worth of netflow history.</div><div><br></div><div>dave</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Paul Julian <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paul@oxygennetworks.com.au" target="_blank">paul@oxygennetworks.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div lang="EN-AU" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">This is total bullshit, these people just have no clue, is there nothing we can do as a community to try and stop this nonsense ?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I can just see the $$$$ now…..<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Regards<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Paul<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> AusNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Yager<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 30 October 2014 11:22 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] Metadata retention... it's now (almost) a thing<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/latest/turnbull-to-rush-metadata-retention-legislation-through-parliament/story-e6frg90f-1227106806266?nk=72104b22405c826c296d068859fd4bea" target="_blank">http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/latest/turnbull-to-rush-metadata-retention-legislation-through-parliament/story-e6frg90f-1227106806266?nk=72104b22405c826c296d068859fd4bea</a><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Andrew<br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">-- <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Andrew Yager, Managing Director</b> <i>MACS (Snr) CP BCompSc JNCIS-SP</i><br>Real World Technology Solutions Pty Ltd - IT people you can trust<br>ph: <a href="tel:1300%20798%20718" value="+611300798718" target="_blank">1300 798 718</a> or <a href="tel:%2802%29%209037%200500" value="+61290370500" target="_blank">(02) 9037 0500</a><br>fax: <a href="tel:%2802%29%209037%200591" value="+61290370591" target="_blank">(02) 9037 0591</a><br><a href="http://www.rwts.com.au/" target="_blank">http://www.rwts.com.au/</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><span>_______________________________________________<br>
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