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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">If it's just source IP to username
stuff im happy with that. It's just the radius logs after all.
There seems to be a grey area around email. Let's see what happens
there email logs would not be the end of the world. It's how
much responsibility do we have for customer end points worry's me.
For example. <br>
<br>
We provide a connection to customer X with a managed firewall.
Customer X has 2000 employees and 1 Ip address that's internet
facing. Are we required to be able to identify customer X's
employee Y based on the IP. Or is it good enough to say it's
customer X. <br>
<br>
The rest i dont really care about. We do it anyway for billing.
However it does complicate my grand CGN idea... ( back to the old
drawing board) <br>
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Also what penalties are in place if we loose or otherwise for some
reason not able to identify a customer. Could we go to jail for a
hard disk crash ? What's the liability.<br>
<br>
Matt.<br>
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On 30/10/2014 12:02 pm, David Beveridge wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I was listening to the parliament broadcast on the
radio this morning and (boring I know)
<div>but I definitely heard Malcolm say that we not be required
to record the destination IP addresses that customers visit,
only the source IP address mapping.</div>
<div>That is, we should be able to supply the account name of
the customer who had the IP address at a given date and time.</div>
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<div>I'm not really sure where this leaves freewifi providers
which have a multitude of unknown users behind a single IP.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Ben
Cooper <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ben@zeno.io" target="_blank">ben@zeno.io</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">Last I checked (90 minutes ago). They still
have not set what data they want kept.
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<div>Reference: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Fems%2Fr5375_ems_e6cf11b4-5a4e-41bc-ae27-031e2b90e001%22"
target="_blank">http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22legislation%2Fems%2Fr5375_ems_e6cf11b4-5a4e-41bc-ae27-031e2b90e001%22</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:54
AM, David Beveridge <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:dave@bevhost.com" target="_blank">dave@bevhost.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">I don't know why you're so upset
about this.
<div>They're only asking you to keep radius and
smtp logs.</div>
<div>It's not like you're being asked to keep
two years worth of netflow history.</div>
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<div>dave</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Thu, Oct 30,
2014 at 10:35 AM, Paul Julian <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:paul@oxygennetworks.com.au"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">This
is total bullshit, these people
just have no clue, is there
nothing we can do as a community
to try and stop this nonsense ?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
can just see the $$$$ now…..</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Regards</span></p>
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [mailto:<a
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<b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG]
Metadata retention... it's now
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