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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/10/2014 6:21 PM, Paul Wilkins
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<div>It's an interesting point, though it seems the intent is to
present data retention as a fait accompli.<br>
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Brandis might not be the best point of contact. Turnbull would
be best placed to answer what is planned by way of industry
consultation:<br>
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They evidently don't plan on having much, if any, industry
consultation at this point.<br>
Your objective by pointing out the more manifestly absurd things
they might ask for is to sow sufficient doubt in their minds that
they start to think they might need to have some more consultation
in case what they have come up with is as crap as everyone is
telling them, and is unenforceable by a court, and they hear that
from sufficient people.<br>
Even the most rabid politician doesn't want the embarrassing news
headlines if a court throws out the first test-case.<br>
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It might not have any effect whatsoever - but its more productive
than only posting here!<br>
Pick up the phone and call them - if the switchboard is clogged,
that sends a message.<br>
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Paul.<br>
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<p> <strong>Malcolm's Office</strong><br>
Ground Floor, 287-289 New South Head Rd<br>
Edgecliff, NSW, 2027</p>
<p> Postal Address<br>
PO Box 545,<br>
Edgecliff, NSW 2027</p>
<p> Tel: 02 9327 3988<br>
Fax: 02 9327 2533</p>
<p> Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:malcolm.turnbull.mp@aph.gov.au">malcolm.turnbull.mp@aph.gov.au</a></p>
<p> <strong>Parliament House Contact</strong><br>
PO Box 6022, House of Representatives<br>
Parliament House, Canberra, ACT 2600</p>
<p> Tel: 02 6277 7480<br>
Fax: 02 6277 3776</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 30 October 2014 18:00, Paul
Brooks <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>On 30/10/2014 3:18 PM, Paul Wilkins wrote:<br>
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<div>"The government is yet to define
metadata, with Attorney-General George
Brandis <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/george-brandis-metadata-interview-fails-spectacularly-internet-reacts/story-fnjwnhzf-1227016188974"
target="_blank">"failing
spectacularly" at an explanation on
Sky News</a>, though it's expected the
introduced bill will spell that out. Mr
Brandis had said the government wanted
telcos to store "web addresses" under
the scheme, but this was later
contradicted by Communications Minister
Malcolm Turnbull who ruled it out."<br>
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"Metadata" could be anything. Specifics
would be useful before the bill is passed,
if that's not asking too much.<br>
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</span> Paul - you are asking the wrong forum.
Send a request to Sen. Brandis & the Minister
for the specifics - they have them, the AusNOG
community doesn't yet.<br>
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Better still, if everyone sent a request for the
specifics, highlighting your own aspect of the
suspected specifics that could not be complied
with (Skype destination, or email details if you
don't run an email server, or any of the other
things that has been griped about on this
list).......<br>
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<h2>Contact details</h2>
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<h3>Parliament Office</h3>
<p> PO Box 6100<br>
Senate<br>
Parliament House<br>
Canberra ACT 2600 </p>
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<dt>Telephone:</dt>
<dd>(02) 6277 7300</dd>
<dt>Fax:</dt>
<dd>(02) 6273 4102</dd>
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<h3>Electorate Office </h3>
<p>(Principal Office)</p>
<p> 349 Sandgate Road<br>
Albion, QLD, 4010 </p>
<p> <u>Postal address</u> <br>
PO Box 143<br>
Albion DC, QLD, 4010 </p>
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<dt>Telephone:</dt>
<dd>(07) 3862 4044</dd>
<dt>Fax:</dt>
<dd>(07) 3862 4244</dd>
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<h3>Connect with George Brandis</h3>
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href="mailto:senator.brandis@aph.gov.au"
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<dt>Websites</dt>
<dd><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.liberal.org.au/"
target="_blank">Party website</a></dd>
<dd><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.attorneygeneral.gov.au/Pages/default.aspx"
target="_blank">Ministerial home page</a></dd>
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<h3>Alternative URL</h3>
<p><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.aph.gov.au/Senator_Brandis"
target="_blank">www.aph.gov.au/Senator_Brandis</a></p>
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