<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><br><div><div>On Oct 30, 2014, at 11:54 AM, David Beveridge <<a href="mailto:dave@bevhost.com">dave@bevhost.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">I don't know why you're so upset about this. <div>They're only asking you to keep radius and smtp logs.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Well, no, they haven’t detailed what they want anyone to keep yet.</div><div><br></div><div>They have been very shifty over a great number of years about it, though.</div><div><a href="http://www.zdnet.com/leaked-paper-reveals-australias-obsessive-metadata-secrecy-7000033076/">http://www.zdnet.com/leaked-paper-reveals-australias-obsessive-metadata-secrecy-7000033076/</a></div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div>It's not like you're being asked to keep two years worth of netflow history.</div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>According to AFP Commissioner Colvin this morning, the initial set of data carriage service providers will be required (not “asked”) to keep will be the minimum set of data the copyright rightsholders industries will need to manage and control their businesses. So that’s pretty great then, eh?</div><div><br></div><div>After that, though, the bill specifies that the dataset will be defined by regulations under the Act, so a Minister can change his or her mind pretty much whenever, to add more data later.</div><div><br></div><div>It’s all very well for you to be sanguine about this: You don’t have a horse in the race, you aren’t a carriage service provider.</div><br><div> - mark</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></body></html>