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        gray;"></span></b> Scratch NTT, just noticed that goes
    International.  Though a good way to annoy TPG  in any case :)<br>
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    -Brad<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 22/10/2014 11:09 AM, Brad Evans
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      <b style=""><span style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: 115%;
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          gray;"></span></b> Can also add AAPT to the list (via AAPT)<br>
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      Vocus aren't on PIPE IX (NSW) - they appear to go via Telstra and
      AAPT.<br>
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      Also EQX AP isn't on PIPE IX.<br>
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      -Brad<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 22/10/2014 11:01 AM, Joshua
        D'Alton wrote:<br>
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        <div dir="ltr">I can only find Optus Telstra Vocus and Equinix
          AP (17819) who'd supply 500Mbit and don't have PIPE peering,
          even iiNet seems to push a lot of traffic there (mostly Sydney
          routes from what I can tell).
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          <div>Ah the irony of the golden age of peering and what
            happens when a tier1 (regional) congests their peering
            ports.  (reminds me of Netflix, they got around it by going
            to the eyeball network direct)</div>
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          <div>(actually not sure EQX AP doesn't have PIPE, but routes
            from TPG to people with EQX AP appear to be
            TPG->AAPT->EQX->Customer)<br>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:47 AM,
                Jared Hirst <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                      ms,sans-serif;color:#000000">Yeah the issue is
                      that there is a multi level of complaints flooding
                      in, sure we can route around it to say Vocus or
                      someone BUT they would then try and just push it
                      back through their PIPE peering to TPG.... so I am
                      paying for it to go via a transit provider to only
                      have it sent back into the PIPE peering.</div>
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