<div dir="ltr">Ahhh, that'd explain why the internet at home was sluggish this morning :-p<div><br></div><div>Using google DNS there, as it's more reliable than TID's supplied DNS servers :( There've been four day-long outages of uneeda in the 10 months since our TID DSL was finally turned on)</div><div><br></div><div>On the upside, this pointed out to me that I need to test more than just connectivity to 8.8.8.8 through each upstream, to decide whether their BGP feed should be enabled or disabled.. ;)</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 14 October 2014 07:45, Mark ZZZ Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au" target="_blank">markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: Mark ZZZ Smith <<a href="mailto:markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au">markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au</a>><br>
> To: Joshua D'Alton <<a href="mailto:joshua@railgun.com.au">joshua@railgun.com.au</a>>; Brad Peczka <<a href="mailto:brad@bradpeczka.com">brad@bradpeczka.com</a>><br>
> Cc: "<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>><br>
</span><span class="">> Sent: Tuesday, 14 October 2014, 7:39<br>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Google DNS<br>
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>> ________________________________<br>
>> From: Joshua D'Alton <<a href="mailto:joshua@railgun.com.au">joshua@railgun.com.au</a>><br>
>> To: Brad Peczka <<a href="mailto:brad@bradpeczka.com">brad@bradpeczka.com</a>><br>
>> Cc: "<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>><br>
>> Sent: Tuesday, 14 October 2014, 1:26<br>
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Google DNS<br>
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>> I noticed that too. Looks like they are trunking the traffic back to US<br>
> nodes, Asia nodes probably got out of sync or crashed.<br>
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>> OpenDNS appears to be weathering the increased load, people that want local<br>
> DNS can try switch their 8.8.8.8 to 208.67.222.222 (might be smart long term<br>
> anyway, to have 2 different upstream DNSs, and with ODNS being on Equinix syd no<br>
> reason why not).<br>
>><br>
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> If you want to measure your DNS query time, the 'dig' utility prints it<br>
> at the bottom.<br>
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</span>And based on all of that, people using google's DNS servers today are going to feel like the Internet is a bit sluggish today, as the 100ms budget is already exceed before the TCP 3 way handshake has even started.<br>
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[mark@opy ~]$ dig <a href="http://ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog.net</a> @<a href="http://8.8.8.8" target="_blank">8.8.8.8</a><br>
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; <<>> DiG 9.9.4-P2-RedHat-9.9.4-15.P2.fc20 <<>> <a href="http://ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog.net</a> @<a href="http://8.8.8.8" target="_blank">8.8.8.8</a><br>
;; global options: +cmd<br>
;; Got answer:<br>
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 47601<br>
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1<br>
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;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:<br>
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512<br>
;; QUESTION SECTION:<br>
;<a href="http://ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog.net</a>. IN A<br>
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;; ANSWER SECTION:<br>
<a href="http://ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog.net</a>. 3467 IN A 54.252.97.250<br>
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**** ;; Query time: 158 msec ****<br>
;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)<br>
;; WHEN: Tue Oct 14 07:41:48 AEDT 2014<br>
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 55<br>
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[mark@opy ~]$<br>
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Google are well aware of how much latency matters, they're working on (and implementing) TCP "Fast Open" to allow payload data to be carried in the TCP segments of the 3 way handshake to lower latency of content delivery so that the browser etc., can start displaying data faster:<br>
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<a href="http://lwn.net/Articles/508865/" target="_blank">http://lwn.net/Articles/508865/</a><br>
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>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:30 PM, Brad Peczka <<a href="mailto:brad@bradpeczka.com">brad@bradpeczka.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Up here as well.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Though - did anyone else see a bunch of hops just disappear?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Regards,<br>
>>> -Brad.<br>
>>> ________________________________________<br>
>>> From: AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of Rhys Cuff<br>
> (Latrobe I.T) [<a href="mailto:rhys@latrobeit.com.au">rhys@latrobeit.com.au</a>]<br>
>>> Sent: Monday, 13 October 2014 7:29 PM<br>
>>> To: <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
>>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Google DNS<br>
>>><br>
>>> Back for me...<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Sent from my iPad<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 13 Oct 2014, at 10:26 pm, "Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)"<br>
> <<a href="mailto:rhys@latrobeit.com.au">rhys@latrobeit.com.au</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rhys@latrobeit.com.au">rhys@latrobeit.com.au</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> I didn't get out the door, both routers were still fanging it so I<br>
> figured it wasn't that bad,,,<br>
>>> Normally my phone would ring before I got anywhere near a terminal<br>
> too... ;-(<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Sent from my iPad<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 13 Oct 2014, at 10:20 pm, "Tim Raphael"<br>
> <<a href="mailto:raphael.timothy@gmail.com">raphael.timothy@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:raphael.timothy@gmail.com">raphael.timothy@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> I did the same thing - turned right back around having just left home!<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)<br>
> <<a href="mailto:rhys@latrobeit.com.au">rhys@latrobeit.com.au</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rhys@latrobeit.com.au">rhys@latrobeit.com.au</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>> That's something I thought is never see!<br>
>>> I ping that every 30 seconds to check for connectivity outside my<br>
> network.<br>
>>> I did the mad dash scramble for nothing this time ;-)<br>
>>><br>
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>>><br>
>>> Sent from my iPad<br>
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>>> On 13 Oct 2014, at 10:12 pm, "ANSA SERVERS"<br>
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>>><br>
>>> Yeah, 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 is down here in Victoria & Sydney<br>
>>><br>
>>> Regards,<br>
>>><br>
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>>> Subject: [AusNOG] Google DNS<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hey Guys<br>
>>><br>
>>> Has anyone notice Google DNS (8.8.8.8) has stoped working and replying<br>
> to pings?<br>
>>> Seems to be the same with the two providers I use.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks<br>
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