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<div class="moz-signature">Going by iinet looking glass, same
path length. Seems Equinix AS is not transparent looking in
from this direction.<br>
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On 1/10/2014 2:04 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAEUfUGO3p1yaGnrOj7t2ScvFhj_hSVHY=41JQ7CUSqCYhQovCQ@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Does IX include the ASN in the path?
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I've noticed a lot of things prefer Equinix because the ASN
is transparent.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It would be interesting to see what the path selection
would be if all things were equal.</div>
<div><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 1 October 2014 13:47, Brad Evans <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:brad@delion.com.au" target="_blank">brad@delion.com.au</a>></span>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> I'm guessing that if
you turn off NSW-IX that the vast majority of that traffic
would then move over to Equinix and Megaport.<br>
<br>
For us we see 90/10 traffic split between Equinix and
PIPE-IX in NSW. If we bring down our session on Equinix,
most of the traffic (~95%) moves over to PIPE-IX anyway.
It appears our main traffic sources prefer to send traffic
to our AS via Equinix rather than PIPE-IX.<br>
<br>
-Brad<br>
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<br>
<div>On 1/10/2014 1:24 PM, Tom Berryman wrote:<br>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">In
NSW presently:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Equinix
- 11609</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">NSW-IX
- 7967</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Megaport
– 4495</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">--we
don’t have PIPE there.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">NSW-IX
sees the highest inbound for us by about 200% over
the next.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Tom</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
name="148c9d2fb0ffd863__MailEndCompose"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 1 October 2014 12:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bevan Slattery<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net"
target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a>;
Joshua Munro; Belinda Flanders<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] PIPE NSW Changing
Details</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">*BAM!*</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Go Megaport.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">$250 peering only (1Gb)</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">$500 peering + VxC capability
(10Gb)</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">News worthy day!</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I wonder how long till Pipe
Peering dies... most networks we run have
disconnected from it... Megaport and EQ cover
most things. I hear IX is good, but not had the
opportunity to connect up someone yet... will
soon.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I'd love to see a route
differential between all 4 on a state by state..
I wonder if someone could do a snapshot
analysis. I'm most interested in NSW.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I'd like to see what is and
isn't on each peering.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 1 October 2014 12:15,
Bevan Slattery <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bevan@slattery.net.au"
target="_blank">bevan@slattery.net.au</a>>
wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid
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6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">To make life easy as of
today we are doing a 1Gbps IX only port
for $250/month no contract, no membership,
no install. Also will have a number of
major content providers coming on net in
next 30 days which would mean there won't
be much that's not on either.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Agree that it's time to
switch :)</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers<br>
<br>
[b]</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
On 1 Oct 2014, at 11:42 am, Craig Askings
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:craig@askings.com.au"
target="_blank">craig@askings.com.au</a>>
wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Does PIPE-IX even
offer a worthwhile product anymore?
Since an IX’s value is in it’s peers
and it’s ability to connect them. Who
is left on PIPE IX that isn’t
available on Megaport and IX-AU? How
many clients are going to be exiting
over the next 24 months as their
contracts expire?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 1 Oct 2014,
at 11:29 am, Bob Woolley <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:boblobsta@gmail.com"
target="_blank">boblobsta@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
</p>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">PIPE has
absolutely gone to crap.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Just shy of
4 weeks since our issue on
QLD-IX and they are still
trying to figure out how to
make the TPG router on QLD-IX
perform basic ARP functions (I
only mention this as this job
is being directly managed by
PIPE).</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I don't
know about you guys but if we
had an ARP issue on a router
for more than a few minutes I
would be highly embarrassed.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">IX-AU A++</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Megaport
A++</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Bob W</p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 1
October 2014 11:18, Sam
Silvester <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sam.silvester@gmail.com"
target="_blank">sam.silvester@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
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0cm
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">+1 to
what John said.<br>
<br>
This kind of thing leads
to my personal view that
that PIPE IX isn't really
a thing any longer, what
with other IXes actually
offering customer service
that allows you to get on
with the job.</p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On
Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at
10:09 AM, John
Lindsay <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:johnslindsay@mac.com" target="_blank">johnslindsay@mac.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
<blockquote
style="border:none;border-left:solid
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1.0pt;padding:0cm
0cm 0cm
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal">Which
means your
work-around is
more likely to
cause their fabric
to break later
when your old box
is recycled by
someone else.
Change control
policy as
substitute for
customer service
is actually just
crap customer
service.<br>
<span
style="color:#888888"><br>
John Lindsay</span></p>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><br>
> On 1 Oct
2014, at 10:21
am, Brad Gould
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bradley@internode.com.au" target="_blank">bradley@internode.com.au</a>>
wrote:<br>
><br>
> My
understanding is
that this is all
about their
change control
policy.<br>
><br>
> Change the
MAC on your
router and book
a window to
change it back
to the native
MAC when Pipe
can get their
process sorted.<br>
><br>
> Brad<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>
-----Original
Message-----<br>
> From:
AusNOG [mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net"
target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
On Behalf Of
Chris Chaundy<br>
> Sent:
Wednesday, 1
October 2014
09:36<br>
> To: Joseph
Goldman<br>
> Cc: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
> Subject:
Re: [AusNOG]
PIPE NSW
Changing Details<br>
><br>
> Dependent
on your make of
router, it may
just be easier
to change the
MAC address for
the interface on
the new router
to match the old
router's one.<br>
><br>
> Sent from
my iPhone<br>
><br>
>> On 1
Oct 2014, at
9:15, Joseph
Goldman <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:joe@apcs.com.au" target="_blank">joe@apcs.com.au</a>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi
list,<br>
>><br>
>> I am
just wondering
if this is
normal - trying
to change MAC
address for
router port
after urgent
change-over for
our PIPE peering
connection in
NSW, request was
sent through to
the MACD team
but they are
telling me the
request needs to
be approved by
their management
and ETA is 3-5
business days??<br>
>><br>
>> I'm not
a massive user
of PIPE IX but I
have now been
without it for
24 hours and its
looking like it
could be another
48-72 hours
before getting
it back! For
someone who
might get a LOT
of their traffic
via PIPE IX this
would be a
pretty bad
amount of
downtime, as
other transit
links would have
to pick up the
slack.<br>
>><br>
>> If any
PIPE engineers
on list willing
to help the
request move a
little quicker
I'd appreciate
it.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>> Joe<br>
>>
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