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    Before I lost connectivity - PIPE NSW was up in the 11-12k mark too.<br>
    <br>
    Thanks,<br>
    Joe<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/10/14 13:24, Tom Berryman wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">In
            NSW presently:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Equinix
            - 11609<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">NSW-IX
            - 7967<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Megaport
            – 4495<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">--we
            don’t have PIPE there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">NSW-IX
            sees the highest inbound for us by about 200% over the next.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Tom<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
            name="_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
              lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
            lang="EN-US"> AusNOG
            [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
            <b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 1 October 2014 12:20 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> Bevan Slattery<br>
            <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a>; Joshua Munro; Belinda
            Flanders<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] PIPE NSW Changing Details<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">*BAM!*<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Go Megaport.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">$250 peering only (1Gb)<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">$500 peering + VxC capability (10Gb)<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">News worthy day!<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">I wonder how long till Pipe Peering
              dies... most networks we run have disconnected from it...
              Megaport and EQ cover most things.  I hear IX is good, but
              not had the opportunity to connect up someone yet... will
              soon.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">I'd love to see a route differential
              between all 4 on a state by state.. I wonder if someone
              could do a snapshot analysis. I'm most interested in NSW.<o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">I'd like to see what is and isn't on
              each peering.<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all">
            <o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                  ...Skeeve<o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Skeeve
                        Stevens - </span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">eintellego
                      Networks Pty Ltd</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
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                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com"
                          target="_blank">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a> ; <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/"
                          target="_blank">www.eintellegonetworks.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Phone:
                        1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383
                        ; <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="skype://skeeve">skype://skeeve</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks"
                          target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellegonetworks</a> ; <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve"
                          target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://twitter.com/theispguy"
                          target="_blank">twitter.com/theispguy</a><span
                          style="color:black"> ; blog: </span><a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://www.theispguy.com/"
                          target="_blank">www.theispguy.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><img
                          moz-do-not-send="true" id="_x0000_i1025"
                          src="http://eintellegonetworks.com/logos/ein09.png"
                          border="0"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F007F">The
                        Experts Who The Experts Call</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060">Juniper
                        - Cisco - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering</span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F007F"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On 1 October 2014 12:15, Bevan Slattery
              <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:bevan@slattery.net.au" target="_blank">bevan@slattery.net.au</a>>
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">To make life easy as of today we
                    are doing a 1Gbps IX only port for $250/month no
                    contract, no membership, no install.  Also will have
                    a number of major content providers coming on net in
                    next 30 days which would mean there won't be much
                    that's not on either.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Agree that it's time to switch :)<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Cheers<br>
                    <br>
                    [b]<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
                    On 1 Oct 2014, at 11:42 am, Craig Askings <<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:craig@askings.com.au" target="_blank">craig@askings.com.au</a>>
                    wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Does PIPE-IX even offer a
                        worthwhile product anymore? Since an IX’s value
                        is in it’s peers and it’s ability to connect
                        them. Who is left on PIPE IX that isn’t
                        available on Megaport and IX-AU? How many
                        clients are going to be exiting over the next 24
                        months as their contracts expire?<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">On 1 Oct 2014, at 11:29
                            am, Bob Woolley <<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:boblobsta@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank">boblobsta@gmail.com</a>>
                            wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                          <br>
                          <o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">PIPE has absolutely
                                gone to crap.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Just shy of 4 weeks
                                since our issue on QLD-IX and they are
                                still trying to figure out how to make
                                the TPG router on QLD-IX perform basic
                                ARP functions (I only mention this as
                                this job is being directly managed by
                                PIPE).<o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">I don't know about
                                you guys but if we had an ARP issue on a
                                router for more than a few minutes I
                                would be highly embarrassed.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">IX-AU A++<o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Megaport A++<o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Bob W<o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">On 1 October 2014
                                11:18, Sam Silvester <<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:sam.silvester@gmail.com"
                                  target="_blank">sam.silvester@gmail.com</a>>
                                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal">+1 to what John
                                    said.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    This kind of thing leads to my
                                    personal view that that PIPE IX
                                    isn't really a thing any longer,
                                    what with other IXes actually
                                    offering customer service that
                                    allows you to get on with the job.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Oct
                                          1, 2014 at 10:09 AM, John
                                          Lindsay <<a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="mailto:johnslindsay@mac.com"
                                            target="_blank">johnslindsay@mac.com</a>>
                                          wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Which
                                            means your work-around is
                                            more likely to cause their
                                            fabric to break later when
                                            your old box is recycled by
                                            someone else. Change control
                                            policy as substitute for
                                            customer service is actually
                                            just crap customer service.<br>
                                            <span style="color:#888888"><br>
                                              John Lindsay</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                              > On 1 Oct 2014, at
                                              10:21 am, Brad Gould <<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:bradley@internode.com.au"
                                                target="_blank">bradley@internode.com.au</a>>
                                              wrote:<br>
                                              ><br>
                                              > My understanding is
                                              that this is all about
                                              their change control
                                              policy.<br>
                                              ><br>
                                              > Change the MAC on
                                              your router and book a
                                              window to change it back
                                              to the native MAC when
                                              Pipe can get their process
                                              sorted.<br>
                                              ><br>
                                              > Brad<br>
                                              ><br>
                                              ><br>
                                              ><br>
                                              ><br>
                                              > -----Original
                                              Message-----<br>
                                              > From: AusNOG [mailto:<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net"
                                                target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
                                              On Behalf Of Chris Chaundy<br>
                                              > Sent: Wednesday, 1
                                              October 2014 09:36<br>
                                              > To: Joseph Goldman<br>
                                              > Cc: <a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net"
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                                              > Subject: Re: [AusNOG]
                                              PIPE NSW Changing Details<br>
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                                              > Dependent on your
                                              make of router, it may
                                              just be easier to change
                                              the MAC address for the
                                              interface on the new
                                              router to match the old
                                              router's one.<br>
                                              ><br>
                                              > Sent from my iPhone<br>
                                              ><br>
                                              >> On 1 Oct 2014, at
                                              9:15, Joseph Goldman <<a
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                                              >><br>
                                              >> Hi list,<br>
                                              >><br>
                                              >> I am just
                                              wondering if this is
                                              normal - trying to change
                                              MAC address for router
                                              port after urgent
                                              change-over for our PIPE
                                              peering connection in NSW,
                                              request was sent through
                                              to the MACD team but they
                                              are telling me the request
                                              needs to be approved by
                                              their management and ETA
                                              is 3-5 business days??<br>
                                              >><br>
                                              >> I'm not a massive
                                              user of PIPE IX but I have
                                              now been without it for 24
                                              hours and its looking like
                                              it could be another 48-72
                                              hours before getting it
                                              back! For someone who
                                              might get a LOT of their
                                              traffic via PIPE IX this
                                              would be a pretty bad
                                              amount of downtime, as
                                              other transit links would
                                              have to pick up the slack.<br>
                                              >><br>
                                              >> If any PIPE
                                              engineers on list willing
                                              to help the request move a
                                              little quicker I'd
                                              appreciate it.<br>
                                              >><br>
                                              >> Thanks,<br>
                                              >> Joe<br>
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