<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Blackberry data is no longer secure end to end. A number of Asian and middle eastern countries have placed Blackberry servers that intercept traffic at the local level are the request of the local authorities.. It is a condition put on RIM for doing BES and BIS traffic there.</div><div><br></div><div>Serge <br><br><br></div><div><br>On 27 Sep 2014, at 14:37, Mark Currie <<a href="mailto:MCurrie@laserfast.com.au">MCurrie@laserfast.com.au</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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--></style><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">What is really sad is that it was OK back when it suited them (them being the Government) Ie: Blackberry have always had end-to-end encrypted connections to their devices and right back to the on premise BES servers, and Blackberry was long the choice of many Government officials and departments due to the high security of the platform.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Now that other companies (ie Apple / Google) want to release encryption technology (which is still not of the same level at Blackberry) for use by the general public/population, they (the Government’s) whinge and complain and try to make like the vendor is doing a really bad thing…</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Mark Currie</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 27 September 2014 2:02 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] George Brandis - Be Warned</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><rant></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">George Brandis - I hope you read this and understand.</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The following article is an example of what we, the tech industry WILL do if you persist on trying to control the Internet, in Australia or anywhere else.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/security-it/fbi-director-slams-apple-over-iphone-encryption-20140925-10ma5a.html">http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/security-it/fbi-director-slams-apple-over-iphone-encryption-20140925-10ma5a.html</a></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">People are sick of their information being read by authorities without permission, so Google and Apple are fighting back and many others will come.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The users of the Internet in Australia will also do the same. Tools are starting to appear to anonymise what we are doing. I've been testing some of them and you guys will have NO chance.... you are government and law enforcement, you will not ever be able to keep up.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">It will become easier and easier for users to use technology, apps, services to bypass anything you do or put in the way of us doing what we want to do.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">That really isn't much of an issue as 'most' people aren't doing highly illegal things.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">But the criminals and those who are doing VERY bad things, will also (if they haven't already) move to technology that you will not be able to intercept or crack - or will make it so burdensome to do so that just won't be cost effective.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Your actions in the end are going to make it easier for criminals to do what they do... the cybercrime, cyber terrorism, scams and so on - will all become easier - because you have made us work harder to stop you.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I am not really sure if I should even be fighting you on what you are trying to do, because in the end, you are going to be hurting yourselves more than us.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"></rant><br clear="all"></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>...Skeeve</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Skeeve Stevens - </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a> ; <a href="http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/" target="_blank">www.eintellegonetworks.com</a></span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; <a href="skype://skeeve">skype://skeeve</a></span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks" target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellegonetworks</a> ; <a href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a> </span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="http://twitter.com/theispguy" target="_blank">twitter.com/theispguy</a><span style="color:black"> ; blog: </span><a href="http://www.theispguy.com/" target="_blank">www.theispguy.com</a></span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><img border="0" id="_x0000_i1025" src="http://eintellegonetworks.com/logos/ein09.png"></span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7f007f">The Experts Who The Experts Call</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060">Juniper - Cisco - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7f007f"></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>AusNOG mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>