<div dir="ltr">Re the MX80 Family.<div><br></div><div>There is no difference between an MX5 and an MX80 when it comes to being an LNS.</div><div><br></div><div>They both can do a maximum of 4K users and process them at the same speed.</div><div><br></div><div>The only difference is the throughput, but the throughput on the MX80 family is essentially a hardware limit... no a license - although it is enforced as such.</div><div><br></div><div>What I mean is.. licenses are related to MX5, 10, 40, 80. The license controls hardware port capability.. and the throughput is related to that.</div><div><br></div><div>So...</div><div><br></div><div>MX5 - 20Gb TP</div><div>MX10 - 40Gb TP</div><div>MX40 - 60Gb TP</div><div>MX80 - 80Gb TP<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">This is because:</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">MX5 - only 20 x 1gb ports = 20Gb max</div><div class="gmail_extra">MX10 - 20 ports built in + extra card, which can do 20x1gb or 2 x 10gb = 40Gb max</div><div class="gmail_extra">MX40 - 20 ports built in + extra card, which can do 20x1gb or 2 x 10gb + 2 x built-in 10Gb ports = 60Gb max</div><div class="gmail_extra">MX80 - 20 ports built in + extra card, which can do 20x1gb or 2 x 10gb + 4 x built-in 10Gb ports = 80Gb max</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">So, you see why it is really a physical hardware limit... because you can't push anymore than the hardware can.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I am not sure exactly what the services card will have on the platform however because it isn't controlled by licensing.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">So the only reason you get a MX80 over an MX5 (or anything in the middle) is because of the interfaces you want.<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br>...Skeeve</div><div><br></div><div><div><b style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve Stevens - </b><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span></div><div><div><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a> ; <a href="http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/" target="_blank">www.eintellegonetworks.com</a></span><font><p style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px">Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; <a>skype://skeeve</a></p><p style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px"><a href="http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks" target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellegonetworks</a> ; <a href="http://twitter.com/networkceoau" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a> </p><p style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px"><a href="http://twitter.com/theispguy" target="_blank">twitter.com/theispguy</a><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"> ; blog: </span><a href="http://www.theispguy.com/" target="_blank">www.theispguy.com</a><br></p><p style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px"><img src="http://eintellegonetworks.com/logos/ein09.png"><br></p><p style="margin:0px"><span style="color:rgb(127,0,127);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:13px">The Experts Who The Experts Call</span></p></font></div><div style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(127,0,127)"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">Juniper - Cisco </span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">- Cloud</span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px"> </span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">- Consulting</span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px"> </span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">- IPv4 Brokering</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 19 September 2014 14:27, Scott O'Brien <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scott@scottyob.com" target="_blank">scott@scottyob.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">G'Day all,<br>
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I'm often lurking on list but don't often post. I'm building a little setup soon for a small ISP overseas and am hoping to get opinions in peoples experience running a PPPoE server on either the MX5 or Cisco ASR1001-X routers. I know that Juniper have had issues with PPPoE in the past with this platform but I believe that's all sorted now? I can't seem to find much by the way of how many subscribers can be terminated on these platforms in spec sheets when traffic shaping would be being used on each session. Would I be a little optimistic expecting upwards of 4K users on either of these boxes?<br>
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Before I start a war of not using PPPoE because straight IPoE is better and being used more and more, I was thinking it'd be much easier for a small scale shop to support this by simply extending a L2 domain for their customers (with appropriate L2 security) than having to worry about where to place route-points to get meaningful information in DHCP option 82 relays.<br>
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Hoping that someone who works a bit more with Juniper and this platform could answer if I'd be able to run a PPPoE server on the MX5 instead of forking out for the MX80 (not needing the interfaces or bandwidth )? It looks like the licences (S-MX80-SA-FP, S-MX80-SSM-FP from <a href="https://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos13.2/topics/reference/general/mx-series-software-license-features.html" target="_blank">https://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos13.2/topics/reference/general/mx-series-software-license-features.html</a>) only lists the MX80 as the supported device?<br>
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I'm also wondering what peoples experiences are running either of these platforms on the border regarding receiving the full routing table possibly from a few different upstream providers. I believe both these boxes can handle ~ 1.5 million routes?<br>
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I've not done much either by the way of hunting for distributors (either local or in the US) to start getting an idea on pricing yet. Is this something this list could possibly help out with? I know the charter says it's for exchanging technical information, so perhaps content regarding distributor contacts would be better suited to contact me off-list?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
- Scott O'Brien<br>
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