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Not quite as cool as I thought it might have been acting but its still much better than having a tonne of full length entries.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>As for the zones, I found it much neater to split all my zones down to the /64’s as we allocated them. It means I can have a more traditional split up zone file layout that lines up with the networks as they are defined, while also meaning I can check out individual zone contents without having to dump the lot.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I can also then do lots of other cool stuff like turning on dynamic updates on some zones and not others, plus a lot of other cool things.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><br>We were using plain text files until recently, we are in the process of changing over to a proper IPAM / DNS management system given IPv6 is effectively (though not completely) impossible to properly manage without some sort of automation tool to assist to prevent typos etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>PS – If you are interested, the tools we are using for this are phpipam (<a href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/phpipam/">https://sourceforge.net/projects/phpipam/</a>) to track IP allocations and subnets and nictool (<a href="http://www.nictool.com/">http://www.nictool.com/</a>) to handle DNS zone maintenance. I have created some integration scripts (Perl in this case) between them that goes and automatically creates the zones and host records as they are assigned in phpipam, I’ve also got some cool puppet modules to generate the DNS and DHCP server configuration as well as initialise the empty zone files when needed, with Nictool (via an nsupdate delta changes insert / delete export module) and DHCP then both able to insert into DNS via keys and allow statements.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Ayden Beeson<i> </i></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Damien Gardner Jnr [mailto:rendrag@rendrag.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 19 September 2014 2:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> Beeson, Ayden<br><b>Cc:</b> Mark Prior; Daniel Watson; ausnog@ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] IPv6 rDNS Zone File<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Can you explain what you mean by trimming off excess 0's? I've found it to need exactly the right amount of 0's in the zone file, or nothing works.. Makes it interesting as you go from :000f to :0010 etc if you forget and just add a digit etc ;)<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I have to admit I've been changing $ORIGIN partways through the file as I get to each /64 just to cut down on the amount of typing I have to do.. (But then I've always just used plain text files for my own stuff.. Now the perl script we had sitting behind powerdns, running the rdns at PFN was a work of art and saved so much time ;)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>DG<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 19 September 2014 13:34, Beeson, Ayden <<a href="mailto:ABeeson@csu.edu.au" target="_blank">ABeeson@csu.edu.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>In addition, IPv6 forward zones should always use AAAA records for v6 addresses, not A records.<br><br>The other thing is you can trim off the extra 0's from the IPv6 reverse entries, our named server seems to be doing that automatically, other than that it should be fine though you might be better off with smaller zone files specific to /64's though that is really up to you.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Ayden Beeson<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: AusNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of Mark Prior<br>Sent: Friday, 19 September 2014 1:31 PM<br>To: Daniel Watson; <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] IPv6 rDNS Zone File<br><br>Why do you have CNAME, MX and especially an A RR in a reverse file? It's for mapping an IP address to a name.<br><br>Mark.<br><br><br>On 19/09/2014 12:19, Daniel Watson wrote:<br>> Hii Guys<br>><br>> We are now using cPanel for our rDNS as it seems to be a bit easier<br>><br>> I was wondering if anybody can confirm if I am doing this correctly<br>> for<br>> IPv6 tho, I know IPV4 works fine<br>><br>> Our allocation is 2406:8900::/32<br>><br>> Zone file is: 0.0.9.8.6.0.4.2.ip6.arpa.db<br>><br>> Zone file consists of<br>><br>> ; cPanel first:11.44.1.18 (update_time):1410954627<br>> Cpanel::ZoneFile::VERSION:1.3 hostname:<a href="http://server.glovine.com.au" target="_blank">server.glovine.com.au</a><br>> latest:11.44.1.18<br>><br>> ; Zone file for 0.0.9.8.6.0.4.2.ip6.arpa<br>><br>> $TTL 14400<br>><br>> 0.0.9.8.6.0.4.2.ip6.arpa. 86400 IN SOA<br>> <a href="http://ad1.glodns.com.au" target="_blank">ad1.glodns.com.au</a>. <a href="http://serverman.glovine.com.au" target="_blank">serverman.glovine.com.au</a>. (<br>><br>> <a href="tel:2014091702">2014091702</a> ;Serial<br>> Number<br>><br>> 86400 ;refresh<br>><br>> 7200 ;retry<br>><br>> 3600000 ;expire<br>><br>> 86400 ;minimum<br>><br>> )<br>><br>> 0.0.9.8.6.0.4.2.ip6.arpa. 86400 IN NS <a href="http://ad1.glodns.com.au" target="_blank">ad1.glodns.com.au</a>.<br>><br>> 0.0.9.8.6.0.4.2.ip6.arpa. 86400 IN NS <a href="http://ad2.glodns.com.au" target="_blank">ad2.glodns.com.au</a>.<br>><br>> 0.0.9.8.6.0.4.2.ip6.arpa. 14400 IN A 103.18.205.2<br>><br>> localhost 14400 IN A 127.0.0.1<br>><br>> 0.0.9.8.6.0.4.2.ip6.arpa. 14400 IN MX 0<br>> 0.0.9.8.6.0.4.2.ip6.arpa.<br>><br>> mail 14400 IN CNAME 0.0.9.8.6.0.4.2.ip6.arpa.<br>><br>> www 14400 IN CNAME 0.0.9.8.6.0.4.2.ip6.arpa.<br>><br>> ftp 14400 IN CNAME 0.0.9.8.6.0.4.2.ip6.arpa.<br>><br>> 3.0.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0 14400 IN PTR <a href="http://ipv6.morgara.com" target="_blank">ipv6.morgara.com</a>.<br>><br>> TIA<br>><br>> Regards,<br>><br>> Daniel Watson<br>><br>> Network Administrator / Network Operations Manager<br>><br>> E <a href="mailto:Daniel@GloVine.com.au">Daniel@GloVine.com.au</a><br>><br>> W <a href="http://www.GloVine.com.au" target="_blank">www.GloVine.com.au</a><br>><br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> AusNOG mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br>><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>Charles Sturt University<br><br>| ALBURY-WODONGA | BATHURST | CANBERRA | DUBBO | GOULBURN | MELBOURNE | ONTARIO | ORANGE | PORT MACQUARIE | SYDNEY | WAGGA WAGGA |<br><br>LEGAL NOTICE<br>This email (and any attachment) is confidential and is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only. 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